Let's be real about current Pacquiao

Well said.

 

little sir Echo , without original thought...

 

1.) One blind judge. The one who scored it 117-111. He must have been sitting next to Atlas

2.) Horn did unexpectedly well which nobody predicted. His scrappiness won him the rounds. I think I may have been influenced more by Atlas. If you listened to Atlas, this fight was a like walk in the park for Pac. Anything Horn threw was because it was a trap by Pac.

3.) Agree. Sad to say but it's near the twilight of the great Manny Pacuiao. He's now 5-4 in his last 9 fights. Just let that sink in.

4.) He should retire but does anybody believe he will? The fact he was fighting on ESPN indicates a financial factor is involved. I don't wan't to hear him talking like Toney or Holyfield who fought on for way too long.

 

Well said, Flo Raiden. Horn did better than expected. Pac did worse. But Pac's worst was still better than Horn's best. Horn was busier but didn't land much. Pac was inactive but still outlanded Horn. Horn was stronger, bigger, younger, and more aggressive. He manhandled Pac in the clinches and pushed him around against the ropes, but that's not how you score. You score with punches which Pacquiao did. Pacquiao showed how a veteran with diminished abilities beats a novice who has every physical advantage. It just wasn't flashy. This fight had more in common with Holyfield vs Valuev than it did with Norris vs Leonard.

 

That ain't fair. He should be 7-2 in his last 9. You are counting 2 huge robberies against him. You might just as well **** on Erislandy Lara's record and say he should retire.

I agree that Pac should retire and he's a shell of himself just looking to get knocked out, but that line of reasoning above was flawed.

 

Agree with 7-2, I was just going off the official record.

 

dude, he made over 90M fighting Floyd lol, I'm sure he's not having financial problems.. he just loves the sport

 

Why walk calmly away from the ring when you can leave the ring in a flying fashion? Much more memorable exit.

 

I say throw Pacquiao in with Spence Jr or Thurman.

 

That Atlas fellow can be pretty persuasive. He had me believing that Pac was winning almost every round. Then I watched it without his commentary and saw something entirely different.

 

I agree 100%. I thought he won, but before that, the thing that most had my attention during the fight was how slow and stationary he looked. He should maybe try for the rematch and hopefully go out on a win, but should stay away from any of the current upper tier welters.

 

In other words you want to see how little aged Pac looks flying through the ropes.

 

His personality has noticeably changed as well.

 

You mean in interviews or that he's no longer a bloodthirsty little monster?