Let's compare Fury's top ten wins to a few others at 31

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury is 31 years old, and, retirement talk aside, could fight for another 5-10 years without issue. Let's compare to Holmes, Wlad and Vitali at this time.

    ANALYSIS: Though thin at bottom, I think Fury's resume just stands up because of the very high-end win, and because he has no loses. I think you can only make an argument for Holmes being a little better based on depth. But let's talk. Maybe you even disagree with my picks.

    30-0-1
    FURY'S TOP 10
    Wlad Klitschko (Unseated was is generally now regarded as a all-time great, maybe on the downside)
    Deontay Wilder (undefeated titlist. I think he's a fraud, but he has his loud supporters)
    ChisoraX2 (well-liked perennial contender, usually loses the big ones)
    Cunningham (Cruiserweight champ and fringe heavyweight contender who got screwed a lot)
    Kingpin Johnson (title challenger/still a legit contender when Fury beat him, though unspectacular)
    Hammer (well-liked fringe contender)
    Pianeta (former title challenger, pretty washed up due to cancer)
    Rogan (former unlikley contender after beating Audley and Skelton)
    Wallin (the guy could go places)

    Let's compare that to Larry Holmes at 31, who, if I am calculating right turned 32 in November 3, 1981
    ANALYSIS: Holmes has considerably better depth at this time, but Fury has the a better single win, very arguably two.

    38-0
    LARRY HOLME'S TOP 10
    Ken Norton (Minor great, certainly down the line from Wlad)
    Muhammed Ali (ghost of a man. Sad fight to watch)
    Trevor Berbick (Flash in the pan titlist, but solid guy,and well remembered)
    Ernie ShaversX2 (legendary puncher, but extremely beatable due to lack of skill and chin)
    Leon Spinks (talented but undersized. Had made a joke of himself by now)
    Mike Weaver (a WBA champ but very oft-beaten guy)
    Renaldo Snipes (big puncher but usually lost big fights)
    Ossie Ocasio (crusierweight champ, not much as heavy)

    Now, Wladdy, who I recon turned 32 March 26, 2008.
    ANALYSIS: Wlad has better depth, but already had three loses, and Fury has the better high end win. Holmes to me is an argument but I think no case can be made for Wlad due to the losses.

    49-3
    WLAD KLITSCHKO'S TOP TEN
    Chris ByrdX2 ( I love this guy, and think he is a great, but he is not accepted as one)
    Sultan Ibragimov (WBO champ. Great talent who retired early and never did much)
    Ray Mercer (high end heavyweight who no longer had his chin, which was his best asset)
    Jameel McCline (I like Jameel. He earned his spot. But he never really rebounded and has a low rep)
    Sam Peter (In my opinion, a bigger fraud than Wilder. But he could punch a little)
    Lamon Brewster (A once exciting fighter who was completely done at this point. revenge for Wlad)
    Monte Barret (Solid but unspectacular win-some, lose-some contender).
    Franz Botha- (overweight psuedo-champ with a little power)
    Axul Schultz- (Durable guy. Gets on here just because of the Foreman fight)

    Now Vitali, who turned 32 on July 19, 2002
    ANALYSIS: No case can be made, period. Losses and thin resume. I am not even going to put commentary on all the names

    31-1
    VITALI KLITSCHKO'S TOP 10
    Herbie Hide (Fun but limited WBO champ. really a cruiser)
    Jose Ribalta (Lesser version of guy who fought Holmes)
    Orlin Norris (good cruiser champ. Decent as heavy but too small)
    Obed Sullivan
    Vaun Bean
    Timo Hoffman
    Ed Mahone
    Ross Purity (Opponent type who beat Wlad and dropped Morrison twice)
    Vacant
    Vacant
     
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  2. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Even better comparison would be best wins after 31 fights.....
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would like to see that.

    I would also like to add Riddick Bowe, but my wife is home and baby is up, so if someone else wants to do it...
     
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  4. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    :eusa_liar::confundio1::confundio1::confundio1:
    I’ll let someone else do that, people are starting to think I’m a fury fan boi on here hmmm
     
  5. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    bowe and Holyfield would be pretty amazing after 31 fights
     
  6. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you put Lewis in there he has:
    Golota
    Akinwande
    McCall
    Mercer
    Morrison
    Bruno
    Tucker
    Ruddock
    Biggs

    That's chronological. Not ranked order. Need to add a 10th, and he does have the loss to McCall in that time frame.
     
  7. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    By age 31 Holyfield had

    cleaned up cruiser

    unified wba ibf wbc heavy

    was undefeated

    names - foreman, Douglas, dokes, de Leon, qawi x2 and others

    woft!
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sweet Jesus, you fantastically failed to comprehend the thread. Nor was it really a mystery. Everyone else got it.

    Look, I liked comics books a lot too, but maybe if you tackled some literature above the Batman level, your reading comprehension would be a bit higher.

    What a ****ing dummy.

    Really, even if you didn't bother to read the thread (can you?) what did you not get in the thread title
    Let's compare Fury's top ten wins to a few others at 31

    Really, stupid *******.
     
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  9. Neon Maniac

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    Otto Wallin is a very underrated win , I think he’s the number 2 southpaw after Usyk. The tricky part is when you are defending titles it isn’t as easy , just ask any former champion how hard it is to hold on to a title because fighters will fight harder for the most part .
     
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  10. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    gomez the best cruiser ever? Usyk? Holyfield? You don’t have to lie to protect vitali he’s a big boy.

    you complain that fury’s win over wlad that he was old, sanders was nearly 39 when he fought vitali and clearly out of shape. Also, sanders dropped vitali.

    Kirk Johnson my god, showed up disgracefully, has not bothered to train. I would fancy 21 year old Dubois to knock him out.

    Both fury and vitali had similar length breaks from boxing.

    also vitali went professional at what 24/25? After being thrown off the Olympic team after being busted for steroids that have to be ingested.

    vitali fought chisora as a defence. Fury beat him more impressively twice on free TV.

    the Adamek fight is painful viewing, watching an undersized, ex lightheavy being goaded to get up by vitali to continue fighting despite being totally undersized.

    does the solis fight count?

    and don’t forget vitali had already lost to Chris Byrd by 31.

    And you never answered the question, just went on a mad rant. What is vitalis best wins 31 years old and before?
     
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  11. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    No. You jumped into a thread which was discussing several boxers past and present, made yourself look stupid and now you want out.
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, stupid. You did not comprehend what it was about, and still don't even though every attempt has been made to explain it.

    It is about their best wins BY THE AGE OF 31.

    You big, illiterate dummy. Go look at the pictures in Batman.
     
  13. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    not even reading this as it has nothing to do with the thread or discussion
     
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  14. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    nothing to do with the OPs thread topic
     
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  15. Boxlight

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    Fury would of smoked Vitali prime for prime