Lets dabble into the Floyd Hater mentality for a moment, just a dabble...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Danny_Rand, Jul 8, 2008.


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  1. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Theres a lot of stupidity around here today ESB is on a role
     
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    Look there is no doubt Floyd has accomplished more than Cotto having moved up all these weight classes, picked up all these titles, and fought in all these mega-fights throughout his career. But when you're comparing a welterweight to another, it doesn't really matter if one has moved up from 130, because all that matters is how good they are while they are at welterweight. If you're gonna step back and compare their careers, then of course it matters and Floyd has the upper hand by far. But just compare how good they are as welterweights, Floyd's edge is not so clear.
     
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  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    You've resorted to posting nonesense and trolling, so trying to look like the smarter poster is likely not gonna work. DOn't worry, Pit, Pimp C, and Bigtime9 probably will think you're smart.
     
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  4. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whare is the "Am I not right choice" ?
    Zab Judah lost his last fight before Mayweathe fight.
    Mayweather waited for DLH to get older to start calling out for fighting him; then backed up in a rematch with DLH knowing that the result in the first fight was a close split decision in his favor and suspecting that he would lose a rematch with Floyd SR in DLH corner. He retired or ran away in his prime. He is just a coward.
     
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  5. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Summer is out.

    This should be very simple. Shane was a much better, and more busy boxer than Oscar was in and around the same age.

    Secondly, the Judah fight wasn't the only issue, the OP is over simplifying the issue to meet his ends. The fact of the matter is that there was a window of time for Floyd to choose to fight the best in his division and he failed to do so. It was never, and won't ever be about Zab Judah.
     
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  6. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    I can feel the love on ESB, folks...
     
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  7. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Once again proving your lack of knowledge. Baldomir a journeyman? :rofl He hadnt lost in 8 years, and hadnt been knocked out since his 7th professional fight. Not only that, but after the Floyd fight he went to 154 and had a decent entertaining showing against Vernon Forrest who again couldnt put him away. Who was Joshua Clotteys first lost to as a professional? Carlos Baldomir. And yes Zab Judah was still a champion regardless of his loss to Baldomir and still considered one of the best welters in the division.

    First off if you had any knowledge about how the process took place you would know that Floyd and Judah fighting was already inked since he WAS considered the top welter in the division before the Baldomir defeat. And the Baldomir loss for Judah did not change that fact. And your analogy is stupid and childish. You are basically that Leonard fought Duran, Hearns and Hagler one right after another. he didnt constantly retire. Wait 10 years for a fight with Hagler, and 10 years for a rematch with Hearns. He fought Aaron Pryor at 140, and he never ever fought any bums inbetween. :rofl

    Dude come on.

    Thats not what Im saying dumbass. I have no problem with Cotto fighting Judah, as I specified already in this thread? Can you read? I said it should be considered just as big or even a better win for Floyd beating Judah when he did. While Cotto beat him after a year layoff. Do ya get me boy?

    Actually I believe I specified why Oscar was not as aged as many think. That his jab, footwork and ESPECIALLY defense, was excellent. How many of Floyds punches did Oscar block with his gloves?

    Boy oh boy, tell us again how Floyd would lose to Margarito lol?
     
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  8. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Wrong. Floyd had been calling out DLH and Mosley for years. I believe it was after the Gatti fight that he called out both of them Im not sure.
     
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  9. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    :lol: Take a look at your last 10 posts on this forum. Obviously you and lance are the torch bearers for intelligent discussion.

    "Booga booga *****, booga booga"
     
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  10. DoumB

    DoumB HOYA KO1 PRESSCOT Full Member

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    maybe hes a fanboy but he does make some sense... I think some of u took this thread as an offense to Cotto wich its not the case... altough I beleive beating judah for both are great wins, a point can be made that floyd beat him first... but u can say judah was coming off a loss so I dont think one win is better then the other
     
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  11. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    :good
     
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  12. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Well going back to the stupid thread . . . who's saying that Cotto fighting Zab is risky?

    There was a poll here before that fight happened and 90% it says . . . it's a bull**** fight for Cotto because Judah is a SHOT fighter. It's entertaining yes . . . but no stature value. Only the Zab Judah fans are the ones giving Zab a chance.

    Second . . . how can you say that fighting DLH is not cherry picking when DLH is clearly out of his prime and there are lot of dangerous fights at 147 where PBF really belong? For money or for what ever reason . . . that's still cherry picking.

    In short this is a bull**** thread that doesn't need to be glorified . . . thus the response.
     
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  13. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    2007 DLH beats Margarito, beats Cotto and beats Clottey. At 147 or above.
     
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  14. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yeah sure can . . . can DLH make 147?

    Point is if there are no good fights at 147 then . . . there will be no antagomism against Floyd. He fought an aging 154 lber and fought a 140 lber next . . . skipping his own division. Then now retired himself . . . . saying there's no more to be accomplished?

    Goddam boiii . . . open your eyes and accept logical views.
     
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  15. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i checked box rec...
    was 36 when this fight went down
    and oscar was 34 when he fought floyd
     
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