Lets dabble into the Floyd Hater mentality for a moment, just a dabble...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Danny_Rand, Jul 8, 2008.


  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    So? Not losing in 8 years does not make you a contender if all you've done is faced equally bad opponents. I guess Brian Neilson was really the #1 HW since he went so long w/o a loss. JCC jr is undefeated. I guess that makes him a quitable opponent for Kelly Pavlik right? All you do is look at #'s, whether it's how many fights or how old a fighter is. A simplistic view.

    You think Baldomir getting a DQ win over Clottey, while getting totally outboxed is a good win?

    Judah was STILL A CHAMP despite losing? That says all we need to know about you. :patsch



    Baldomir STILL one of the best WW"S? Did you just say that? :lol::lol::lol: ****in NEWBIE!!!

    We all know the circumstance to this fight. Do you think you're capable of adding anying most aren't already aware of? You're a johnny come laterly to boxing and especially Mayweather. :patsch




    And I explained why it isn't. You just refuse to acknowledge that, since if you did, you'd be shooting your own "point down".


    You are going to tell everyone else why DLH was not as aged as everyone thought. :patsch You, a newbie fanboy who's just gotten into boxing...

    Aged or not, he was inactive (your argument w/ Judah BTW....) and he STILL fades late. Has for years.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    DLH cannot even make 147 child. And you're only saying this because you're a Mayweather fanboy.

    DLH got his faced all bruised by a LW FFS. :patsch

    Prime DLH beats them. Today, he loses to Cotto and Margarito. Too much pressure for DLH to fade on.
     
  3. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Sorry Floyd beat 2 really good champions regardless of weight class, dont bring Welter into this when you have the fact that Floyd has fought in 5 weight classes, so no it wasnt his own division adding to the fact Floyd is a small welter, and his real division was probably 135. Secondly 18-0 in championship fights, a record that no fighter alive today can match, except for Maybe Calzaghe.

    Oscar was a legit threat that would beat any of the top welters at the time, and Hatton was a P4P number 8.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    What parts made sense? Elorborate please. Would love to hear this. :deal
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    WW was his division. He weighed 147, he was a WW.


    Oscar can't even make 147 ass. What, were you going to match a 154 DLH vs. a 147er? :lol::lol:

    You try to and think you're making good posts, but you're really just coming off as a ****in ******.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    I've often said the same thing and people just refuse to see it.
    PBF-Zab why did this fight take place? Zab is a chiny bum
    Cotto-Zab What a great display by Cotto and a great win for him against a dangerous guy with speed and power.

    PBF-Oscar for his first fight at 154 I might add Oscar is shot he never would beat a prime Oscar garbage win.
    Cotto-Shane What a great win against Molsey despite him being older than Oscar at 37.
    The double standards here are ridiculous.:-(
     
  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Well you cannot omit the fact that the antagonism started when Floyd didn't fight the right fights at 147 . . . yeah Hatton is a great champ at 140 who is struggling at 147 and DLH was an aging champ at 154 . . . yeah Floyd fouight 5 weight classes but he didn't fully establish his name at each division before going up in weight . . . that's the truth to that nothing else.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    How is it a double standard if Cotto and MAyweather are not equals, or were not at the time.
     
  9. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Lol. You are a moron. He didnt lose for 8 years, then proceeded to defeat 3 former or current champions on that run. :rofl

    Do you know what the definition of a journeyman is you moron? Do you call someone who hasnt lost in 8 years and defeats champions a journeyman? Boy oh boy you are dumber then I thought.

    He held the IBF title. Again you are overblowing this point, the point was, Judah was considered a top welter at the time he fought Floyd.

    Never said that. Infact the only reason I mentioned Baldomir was in reference to Judah. Infact he was probably the worst WBC champ of alltime at welter. Due to Judahs carelessness, Floyd had to defeat him to get his much deserved strap.

    Coming from the moron who calls guys that beat champions journeymen. :rofl

    You are clearly a joke. You keep calling me a newbie without debating any of the points. I believe I explained why Oscar was still game. His jab is still one of the best in the business, and his defense is still great. Footwork, intelligence all still there. Especially his speed, as to his blows still being lightning fast, add to that a still devastating left hook and this fight was just as risky if not moreso given Floyds jump in weight to Mosley V Cotto fight.

    Mosley never fades. Yet was sucking air in the 5th against Cotto. :deal
     
  10. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Lol. Brilliant. Hatton weighs in on fight night at 154, so I guess he's a junior Middleweight. :patsch




    According to the oscarsexuals he was walking around at 147 for months. :hey

    Oscar could make 147 if he tried. He got down to 150 for Forbes.
     
  11. Muchmoore

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    Oh he was 34 not 33 that changes everything.
     
  12. DoumB

    DoumB HOYA KO1 PRESSCOT Full Member

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    the part where he compared both victories against zab and somehow oscar and mosley's fights... I think the guy is a fan thats for sure but he has a point
     
  13. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    I'll say it again . . . 90% in the polls says . . . the Cotto/ZAB fight is a bull**** fight for Cotto. Only the Zab Fans are the one saying that Judah is still dangerous.

    So don't equate that to Cotto fans being double standard.
     
  14. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    if you think fighting Judah who held a belt at the time was worth anything your a dumbass, he lost to Baldimor and some how saved his IBF title becuase of some political BS in the system.
    so in other words that wasnt a title it was what it is a ****ing belt it didnt make Judah any shape or form of a champion.
    Miguel Cotto beat the guy who beat DLH twice, Floyd picked DLH becuase style wise it was the biggest money fight he can get and the safest fight that could be made, in other words he basicly used Oscar to make as much as he can but it does not make him better than Cotto.
    Mosley still no matter how you slice it, he has two wins over a prime DLH, while Floyd has one SD win over a old DLH big difference there.
    Cotto beating mosley is a much better win that Floyds questionable decision over Oscar.
     
  15. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    :lol: First off many felt that the matchup between Mosley and Oscar should be 1-1, many consider the second fight a win for Oscar.

    Secondly, if you watched either of the fights, you would know that the SD should have been given to Mosley v Cotto, not Floyd V Oscar. Mosley Vs Cotto was alot closer in the end then Floyds fight with Oscar was to anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of the sport. By the 12 round Oscar had no hope of winning. The fight was still in doubt when Cotto and Mosley entered the 12th. Depending how you scored the championship rounds with Cotto basically fighting off the backfoot. Floyd on the other hand was tagging Oscar at will after the 9th.

    Lastly, the point about Judah being a champion is immaterial, is still was regardless. However he was considered a top welter, and that cant be disputed. When Cotto fought him, he wasnt considered anything.