Let's dabble into the Floyd Lover mentality, just a dabble...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by DINAMITA, Jul 10, 2008.


  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Chico was a top 10 P4P ranked back then and was the favorite in that fight:deal
    Hatton was top 10 P4p when that fight took place PBF stopped him
    JLC PBF beat JLC 2x what more do you want?
    Hernandez Oscar beat him at 135 PBF beat him at his best weight at 130 in his 18th pro fight I might add.

    Let me ask you ths Pac fan. What elite prime fighter has Pac faced or beaten?
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :lol: :good
     
  3. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    On the contrary it was a great preformance in my honest opinion....obviously it could have used a bit more drama, action and pugilism but Floyd's best skill sets where on display he did what he had to do to get the victory he utilized his talents to obtain the ultimate goal which was the win. Its not everyone's cup of tea but it was generally respected around most circles I "dabble" with :hey
     
  4. DINAMITA

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    Floyd Mayweather fight vs Oscar De La Hoya at 154 was a poor performance lol! Jesus you must know something, I mean every analyst of the sweet science called that a masterful performance by Floyd. Then again maybe it is all about the violence, Bum fights is one of the top videos on youtube so I could be wrong about what makes a great boxer, thats entertainment right?



    My friend, it is possible to be a great boxer but still be attacking and entertaining. Have you ever seen Roy Jones Jr fight?? Mayweather stuck to his gameplan well and sneaked a very very close points decision v DLH, but it was a dull, cautious, horrible performance by him. Everyone went home disappointed. It wasn't even a virtuoso defensive display or a boxing masterclass a la Whitaker or peak Winky Wright or Hopkins, it was awful.
     
  5. Caper

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    :lol:

    I agree white castle is quite delectable after a night of hennessy consumption.:yep
     
  6. DINAMITA

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    JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
    ERIK MORALES (in their 1st & 2nd fight)
    MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA (in their 1st fight)

    It's easy but wrong to say they were washed up AT THE TIME Pac fought them. Despite his age, Marquez is still peak, he is one of the very best in the world today. Who has PBF ever fought ranked as high P4P as he is/was when he fought PAC? Morales fought like a lion in their 2nd fight, it was a stunning win by Pac, he was underdog and beat a legend in a thriller. He was only said to be 'shot' after that fight, that's a fact. And how anyone can say Barrera in their 1st fight was not at the peak of his career is insane. He was rated #3 P4P and had beaten prime Morales. He got destroyed. PBF has never had a performance to match it, despite his easier opposition.

    I didn't want to start talking Pacquiao, but I had to respond to the question. U guys r obsessed with him.
     
  7. Danny_Rand

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    Well you dabble in the right circles my friends. Its refreshing that their are those out there who arent swayed by cheap theatrics and can be entertained by the purest form of sweet science every once and awhile.
     
  8. bxrfan

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    I thought the first Tarver fight was actually pretty entertaining. But I get your point.
     
  9. Danny_Rand

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    Just be quiet you are embarrassing yourself. Anyone that watched the fight knows Mayweather had the fight won after the 8th-9th. Absolutely dominated the championship round. Teddy Atlas and most boxing afficienados referred to it as a masterclass of the sweet science. He beat Oscar in the middle of the ring, against the ropes, and basically controlled the tempo when it mattered. Oscar barely landed 10 punches a round, his shoulder roll against the ropes with Oscar in his face, nearly knocking him out in one of the best counter punches I've ever seen was straight marvelous.

    Seriously if you dont like the guy fine. But you wont ever see me falsly criticizing any of pacs fights in such a rudimentary way.
     
  10. The Thruth!!!!!

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    Let's not overcomplicate this....Mawyeather was a FANTASTIC 130-135 pounder. Speed, power and was an exciting fighter in those days. After he moved to 140 he took the road of least resistance. This is undebatable! I could write out a big long explaination but you all know the thruth.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fair post but I disagree. EM was at the end of his peak in the first Pac fight faded in the second and shot in the third.
    MAB was coming off brain surgery in the first fight but he still won so I'll give him that MAB was faded in the second fight
    JMM prime the first fight and was a draw End of his prime for the second fight and most thought he lost. But the judges gave it to him so I have to give it to him.
     
  12. DINAMITA

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    Just be quiet you are embarrassing yourself. Anyone that watched the fight knows Mayweather had the fight won after the 8th-9th. Absolutely dominated the championship round. Teddy Atlas and most boxing afficienados referred to it as a masterclass of the sweet science. He beat Oscar in the middle of the ring, against the ropes, and basically controlled the tempo when it mattered. Oscar barely landed 10 punches a round, his shoulder roll against the ropes with Oscar in his face, nearly knocking him out in one of the best counter punches I've ever seen was straight marvelous.

    Seriously if you dont like the guy fine. But you wont ever see me falsly criticizing any of pacs fights in such a rudimentary way.



    Do you seriously think this was a 'masterclass'? He won, yes, but it was NOT a good performance. I doubt even PBF himself thought so, or thinks so now. Yeah, when he did bother to flick out a few punches he was incisive and the quality and accuracy of punching was undeniably class, but there was so so little of it through the 12 rounds. How can a 1-point victory margin be a masterclass? It was so disappointing. PBF didn't even do himself justice. He was lazy, lethargic, negative, and had no intention of going for a stoppage or putting himself at any sort of risk whatsoever.
     
  13. Caper

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    I appreciate the competitive nature that exist in the sport of boxing, as you mention in your post the science can be defined in a number of ways. One must appreciate the fact that another professional fighter is able to influence his style in a bout to a point where he has indirectly or directly imposed his will to result in a win. What makes the sport unique is the variety of style the diversity of attack and the different assortment of boxers that fill the rankings. Baldomir was a champion and so was Floyd yet they are two completely different types of fighters.....how cool is that.
     
  14. reed_man02

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    Agree with all. The I also felt JMM won the second fight clearly but it was close. MAB wasn't prime at all in any of their fights.
     
  15. Caper

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    Not quite prime...but not shot either....it was a good win for Pacman. A career defining one at the moment.