Lets decide who will turn out to be a hype job

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  1. ALLBOXING24/7

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    i disagree with every single one of those, williams? he got beat by a person who should be #1 on every1s p4p list

    alexander? the dude is only 23 i think, give him more time :nono

    adamek? hes a hype job for BEATING estrada, arreola, grant? some1 who lost to a ligth heavyweight? YOUR BUGGING
     
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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You truly are completely bias. I gave you a whole list of who Erdei beat and you try and change the facts.
    You cant say who has a better LHW resume in the top 10.
    So Erdei beat Gonzalez who beat D Michalczewski and G Johnson
    He beat Garay who beat Braehmer (current WBO champ)
    He beat Sahnoune who beat 2 weight champ B Girard
    He beat Ulrich who beat S Branco & G Rocchigiani
    He beat Barashian who beat Ulrich
    He went up in weight and beat Fragomeni who at that time had only lost to Haye and drawn with a fighter that holds a win over Cunningham.

    Further to what you say Erdei fought away when he won his WBC CW title :lol:. In Italy.

    Learn your facts.

    As for Sturm you say he ran home like a phoney ass, yet forget that Jones wouldnt travel due to fear of being robbed and avoided Michalczewski, and Dirrell sobbed at home town rubbish after Froch beat him.

    You must have a short memory
     
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Shows how thick you two are, because where have I said anything to the contrary? I havent :lol:.
    Pwned yourselves :pwned
     
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  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well ive proven that Erdei and Sturm are worthy champs with undisputable facts and that they have great records. But nobody seems to be able to tell me what a paper champ is.
    As for Ottke an outstanding champ, arguably the 2nd best SMW ever with undefeated, 21 title defences and the WBA and IBF champ. If Ottke is a paper champ (whatever that is) it must be good, because look at his record or who he beat
    C Brewer twice
    B Mitchell
    G Johnson
    S Branco
    A Mundine
    R Markussen
    D Starie
    M Larsen
    R Reid
    A Krajnc
    he also beat lesser names like
    T Tate
    R Thornberry

    Cant be that bad for Ottke either.

    Your just showing bias and ignorance :patsch
     
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  5. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    I wouldnt say Erdei and Sturm have great records, they have good records but I wouldnt say great. And as for Ottke, im sure even you dont believe that ****. Second best SMW ever? Please. He's behind Calzaghe I suppose.
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wrong again. Read below, what I said. I havent thrown the race card, I said you did. Read again. To think that you say people on here have a low comprehension :nut

    :deal
     
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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I said ARGUABLY 2nd best SMW ever, and of course he would be behind Calzaghe. Calzaghe is without a doubt the best SMW ever. Sadly this is all getting off the thread subject of hype jobs
     
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  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hang around and see if I turn out to be wrong in the next 12 months. Who should be #1 on everyones P4P list?
    Estrada, Arreola and Grant are just regional American HWs that Adamek hasnt looked good beating. None of those guys would do well in the tough elite European HW scene as proven seeing that all those HWs have lost on the tough European scene to Povetkin, V Klitschko and L Lewis respectively
     
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Believe what ****? They are fighters on Ottkes record
     
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    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    I wonder who contributed to that:think

    Roy Jones is the best SMW ever IMO. I know he didnt fight the best, has a terrible chin etc. But one pure ability I think he's the best. I know it's becoming an overused phrase but Ottke did get some gift decisions.
     
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  11. lastletter26

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    Jones resume and Sturm's should not even be spoke of in the same sentence. Jones never fought abroad but has GREAT WINS on his resume. Sturm on the other hand does not. Glad you didn't respond to sturm ducking abraham and pavlik:good.

    Dirrell hasn't had a belt for 8 years without a notable win like sturm. Dirrell has 10x the pair for even being in this S6 tourney. You know dam well sturm would never do anything remotely close to involving himself in such an event that would garentee tough fights. On top of that, dirrell would beat the hell out of sturm. See how easy that was to deflect that point.:deal

    I'm not bias, It's my opinion that Erdei hasn't beatin anyone. You rate those guys high but I don't (opinion). Plenty of paperchamps who beat other paperchamps. Truth is there was some good comp that he didn't fight and still hasn't fought. As of now, If he doesn't fight Dawson, Cloud, Pascal, Bhop, or anyone relevent then he will remain a paperchamp.
     
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  12. bailey

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    Contributed to what? :think
    Ottke didnt have a problem with rematches if a decision had question marks, he beat Brewer and Tate twice, and proved his point.
    Please dont tell me Ottke got a gift decision over G Johnson, he was outboxing him no probs. Reid is the only decision that I thought could have gone against a past prime Ottke.
    Jones the best SMW ever based on.... pure ability. Right. I think its better to base these things on results and facts rather than mythical beliefs. Im not saying Jones wasnt talented, but he also has question marks over his career for using a banned substance by the IBF
     
    bailey, Sep 3, 2010
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  13. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You mean when you called me a racist without me saying anything about race. I said it must be a brit thing and you said I pulled the race card without me mentioning race.

    Show me where I mentioned race at. If you are referring to Post 328 then look it over again. You will see I said nothing about race, You did by accusing me of pulling the race card when I just called you and your friends have nationalistic bias. Do I have to start calling you an idiot?
     
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  14. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who? Who? and Who? Keep on posting those bums up there. Like I said, They haven't beat anyone.
     
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  15. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Jones is clearly a superior fighter to Ottke and I dont know how you can argue with that really. He looked almost flawless throughout his time at SMW and his win over Toney is better than any win Ottke had.
     
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