Let's discuss new WBA HW rankings

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Big Ukrainian, Sep 3, 2018.


  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WBA SUPER CHAMPION Anthony Joshua GBR
    WBA WORLD CHAMPION Manuel Charr SYR
    1 Trevor Bryan INTERIM CHAMP
    2 Alexander Povetkin I/C
    3 Fres Oquendo
    4 Jarrell Miller
    5 Dillian Whyte
    6 Dereck Chisora INT
    7 Otto Wallin
    8 Bryant Jennings
    9 Guiliermo Jones LAC
    10 BJ Flores
    11 Christian Hammer
    12 Alexander Ustinov
    13 Bogdan Dinu
    14 Joe Joyce
    15 Christopher Lovejoy

    NOTES:
    Manuel Charr, WBA regular HW world champion, #28 by boxrec
    Trevor Bryan, WBA interim HW world champion, #39 by boxrec

    Fres Oquendo,
    45 y.o, inactive for 4+ years
    Guiliermo Jones, 46 y.o., 3 fights in the last 5.5 years
    BJ Flores, fringe contender from CW, #115 by boxrec, got destroyed in last fight by Trevor Bryan. TOP-10 HW contender according to WBA.
    Christopher Lovejoy (WHO???)
    Never ever heard of him, and I know probably 300 or more current HWs. Found him on boxrec. Combined record of his last 5 opponents is 8-67-2. Ranked #244 by boxrec. TOP-15 HW contender according to WBA.
     
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  2. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Wow!!! Those are wayyyyyy worse than I could've even imagined!! Been watching this sport for close to 40 years and those are just gross on an ALL TIME level......
     
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  3. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They aren’t even trying to hide it anymore
     
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  4. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    It's easier to hide from law when you are hiding in a drug cartel HQ in Panama or civil war-torn Venezuela, right Mendoza? :cool1:
     
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  5. zeratul

    zeratul Active Member Full Member

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    I always had troubles comprehending this.
     
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  6. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    It's sad that the oldest sanctioning body is reduced to this.

    Then there's the latest witless utterings of the guy who holds the second oldest body in his grasp.

    Sometimes boxing is a hard sport to love.
     
  7. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    The WBA used to be the premier organization with the General assembly having way more power than the president, who served more as a chairman. Every few years, the WBA General assembly would choose different president at the WBA annual convention. Until mid 1980s, no person served as the president for longer than 3-4 years (or 3 consecutive annual mandates).

    And then, the Mendoza clan infiltrated themselves in the key positions of the WBA, established the network of clients inside the Assembly and has been usurping the WBA ever since. First it was Gilberto Mendoza Sr from 1982 to 2015, and then his reptilian son to this day. They have been running the WBA as a family cartel (WBC style) and essentially downgraded the most prestigious boxing organization to the laughing stock level, borderline-money laundering organization which breaks its own rules on monthly basis, fixes its ratings for money and creates new pointless belts whenever they strike a private, illegal deal with some of the promoters/managers/advisers.

    Sad.
     
  8. Wasteman

    Wasteman Certified Wasteman Full Member

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    Ahaha good one, I needed a laugh. Now what are the real rankings?
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    They're complete and utter s***. End of discussion.
     
  10. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    The only way their rankings could be worse is if they gave Gary Cornish mandatory status - and I generally wouldn't be surprised if that were to happen.

    We Be Awful.
     
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  11. TheMikeLake

    TheMikeLake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WBA spits this crap out and could never give my boy Bronco Billy Wright a title shot.
     
  12. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    They're all as bad as each other.


    The WBA rankings are laughable.....But at least they stick to implementing the 1 v 2 for Mandatory position. (Obviously 1 v 3 here, as Povetkin was already mandated before Bryan went to 1).

    The WBC ranking are more accurate, barring having Bellew top 5 who has 2 fights against a low ranked opponent at HW.....But then issue nonsense like 5 v 16 for mandatory status (Or whatever Big Dom v Molina was).


    I've always accused the WBC of showing US bias.....
    But that WBA list is even worse on that front.


    The WBA have poor rankings.....
    The WBC can't even stick to mandatory rules.....
     
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  13. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The NBA was formed as a response to the NYSAC. The IBU and NSC are even older than NYSAC. NBA changes their name the WBA and the IBU, NSC, and NYSAC merge into the WBC.

    The WBA is oldest in name alone. All of the sanctioning bodies that predate the WBA are the WBC today.
     
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  14. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which mandatory will be called first? Trevor Bryan for WBA or the winner of Pulev & Hughie for the IBF?
     
  15. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: When's the last time you took a real look at the WBO? They have the worst of both worlds. Bad ranks and bad mandos.

    The IBF gave us Glaz vs Martin for a title fight....that says all any can say about the IBF.