LETS END THIS "SUCKERPUNCH" BS, Macklin, Smith and Hatton

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  1. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    that sounds like the women that was in the room.

    "well yeah, but he couldn't punch him while he wanted a hug!!! :|:|"



    ****s sake man.
     
  2. bandido

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  3. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    haha.

    Man, that's horse ****.


    Now we have boxing fans saying that punching a guy in the face with time in during a BOXING MATCH is a sucker punch. :!:

    (that is kind'a funny though, did you put that on there?)
     
  4. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Not unless the other guy knew that it was already time in. This is why the majority of the blame is on Cortez. He lost control of the fight.

    It's not mine. Just found it.
     
  5. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    My complaint with that my man is that Cortez was directly in Ortiz' face....yelling "Don't be doin that!!! Don't be doin' that!!" with Ortiz full most attention, as he's backing away slightly he yells "let's go" bringing his hands together.

    No way Ortiz didn't understand Cortez. He was just stupid enough to try and hug a fighter who was visibly pissed and who had his hands in fighting position with his chin tucked.

    come on now....
     
  6. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    That's a presumption. Ortiz claims otherwise. He said he did not know that the fight was on. Not Floyd's fault however but by Ortiz's claim that he did not know the fight was on, it makes the Floyd's punch a sucker punch, which is what we're trying to debate on here (whether or not it was a sucker punch).
     
  7. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Yes, I do presume that, I'm surely not Ortiz.

    But, in my strong opinion, watch the fight and see what I'm saying there.

    Ask yourself these:

    Was Cortez in Ortiz face drillin' him about the foul? Was Cortez quite close to Ortiz as he was doing so?



    Cortez very next action with Ortiz watching him (what certainly appears to be) closely is to step back a pace or two and motion for the fight to continue bringing Mayweather out of his corner upon this action, along with the verbal "let's go!".

    Ortiz also said he is Literally a tree. So I mean.....

    Edit: Wait a minute!? haha. After reading that more closely, it appears you are saying it's only a sucker punch because Ortiz insist he didn't know it was time in?
     
  8. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So that means, I can feign ignorance and win every boxing match I'm in by DQ cause I wasn't aware the bell rung. :rofl
     
  9. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is why I say it was a sucker punch, but a legal one. So no feigning is involved. Regardless, rules are rules and the rules benifit Mayweather. And there is nobody else to blame but Ortiz. But yeah, I still think it was a sucker punch.
     
  10. u29236

    u29236 Active Member Full Member

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    Was it time in? If it was time in the bell should have rang before the 10 count. Right?
     
  11. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whether time was in or not, whether cortez fuked up or not, the fact is Floyd knew Ortiz's wasn't prepared. No, that's not Floyd's fault Ortiz was seeking forgiveness, again, and had his hands down, but Floyd took advantage of a defenseless opponent that wasn't prepared for what happened. That is a sucker punch.
     
  12. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    if you are going to watch the replay, when ortiz was about to hug floyd, floyd's face was full of anger and the hug he gave to ortiz was just to sucker punch him right after while ortiz is not ready.. floyd is a *****!
     
  13. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Money dont owe Ortiz ****. That was a championship fight, not the olympics or the golden gloves. What the **** was he looking for ( a dinner date ). Money sucker punched a sucker. A sucker who had just intentionally rammed his head into his face and then thought that he could hug and make up. Not that kind of party.:bbb:bbb:bbb