Let's face it, Ali has nothing that will trouble Lewis.

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  1. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Body punching put Norton over the top. Would Lewis be able to match Ali's activity headhunter to headhunter? No.

    The only way I see Lewis winning is if he's able to wall Ali off with the jab, but the fact that he was outdone by Mercer and Bruno doesn't lend confidence.
     
  2. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you watch the first round of Biggs against Lewis, you can see shades of what the fight might be like. If Lewis couldn't match Ali's jab, he'd likely try to bull in and make it a dog fight. It's basically what he did against Vitali and to a lesser extent Bruno. Ali wasn't averse to clinching, so it would probably turn into a really sloppy and therefore competitive fight. I don't think Lewis would be content to be outboxed. That mentality is part of what set him apart from his peers.
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Go watch Lewis stop 250lb Vitali in his tracks and then tell me it's inferior to Ali in everyway possible. Better yet, show me a fight where Ali did the same.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Plan A would be to box, plan B would be to try and turn it into a street fight.
     
  5. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Did I say he would?

    Dude said Ali had no uppercut, I gave an example of him winning a fight with one.
     
  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I suggest you ask Lennox his opinion on this. I did I asked him honestly did he think he could have beaten Muhammad Ali He smiled & said " No Muhammad Ali really was the GREATEST he is my idol " I'll take Lennox word on that but in my book Lennox is second only to Ali
     
  7. UFC2015

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    People with heart don't go down like over protected girls via the one big shot to the face, they stand on their feet inspite of taking non stop brutal punishment.
     
  8. UFC2015

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    Certainly not guaranteed. Quite an expected statement from a notorious lenni nut hugger.
     
  9. UFC2015

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    Who did lenni face with alis hand speed, foot speed, ring generalship, heart, chin and the ability to come back from no where. Lenni gets embarrassed like Foreman
     
  10. Quick Cash

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    I actually agree with the sentiment. Your closing, especially, is why I have Lewis beating Wlad. But he'd still need to close the distance on Muhammad. Not good.
     
  11. Bogotazo

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    Every style has it's drawbacks. Being big, tall, and stiff can be a potential drawback against a mobile athletic quick-handed phenom with great upper body movement. Lewis didn't fight against every other great heavyweight ever.
     
  12. Boxing2016

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    Ali skills to beat physiologically anyone in the world of Boxing had no match with anyone & you are talking about Lewis power. Power & punch variety are not all the things for a champion. If i agree with your point then why Ali was a champion, you can clearly see that how he beats his opponents physiologically. Can anyone of you give me just one example to prove that there is someone who is equivalent to Ali in engaging his opponent????
     
  13. LouisA

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    Ali has plenty of tools to trouble Lewis with, no need to name them, everyone knows his strengths, it’s Ali, after all.

    But Lewis has a massive massive size and reach advantage, solid boxing skills and crushing power. It’s a combination package that Ali never faced before.

    For some reason people seem to give Ali a pass, he is picked to beat all the super heavyweights of the modern era, whereas guys like Frazier, Marciano and Louis (who actually beat some super heavys) are dismissed as to small and/or to crude. I never could understand that. What makes Ali the exception to the rule? The training regime and diet of Louis and Ali is much more similar than that of Ali and Lewis.

    As I see it there are to possible outcomes, either talent is talent, then Joe Louis and Ali would dominate the super heavyweights we see today, they were that good and anyone with a pair of eyes can see the talent.

    Or, the modern training, diet and drugs has made the heavys today to big and strong for the fighters of previous eras to compete with. Both perfectly reasonable arguments.

    What is not reasonable is the idea that everyone else were to small and/or crude, but that Ali, who competed with these small heavyweights, would somehow make the transition into the modern era without any trouble.
     
  14. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see Ali having more problems with Wlad than with Lewis. Lewis faced many sluggers not many boxers or movers such as Ali. Lewis didn't carry his power late and Ali was almost impossible to stop. Ali UD
     
  15. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Reasonable. However, elite boxers would be in a position to exploit the speed and skill deficit, where guys who ride the fence or are out and out bangers are resigned to rush headlong into super heavyweights' wheelhouse.