Let's face it guys...Floyd won the fight but he didn't school Pacquiao

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  1. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you can't see that Pac was totally tamed and didn't want to throw punches.... :lol:

    Manny was content with letting Floyd box his way to victory. Shameless. It was clear Floyd was winning. There was no need for Floyd to take a risk. Manny never "went for it" at any point in the bout. He was content with losing.

    Do you honestly believe looking for 1 big left, and going in for a flurry would work against Mayweather? Because that's what Pac was doing. Dude was just counting the rounds until he could pick up his check. That's reality.
     
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  2. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    Mayweather couldn't even put a beating on a fighter who was one armed

    evertime pac got close he ran and hold like a ***** ever left hand that landed rocked him
     
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  3. Le Tombeur

    Le Tombeur Member Full Member

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    Ok

    Didn't school him though.

    Let's define this term as what should really be: an asswhopping..literally..meaning landing consistently "clear and hard punches". Don't care how it comes to that (countering, pressuring, inside, etc.). That's what sport of boxing is all about (or it should be cause it seems to me that it's becoming more like an "art" contest).
     
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  4. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He got taken to boxing school. An ass whooping is a different thing and more physical. A "schooling" is just as it sounds: educational. Manny got taken to school. He looked "lost." Floyd was his "teacher."

    And again: Manny didn't want to get his "ass whooped" and that's why he threw the lowest amount of punches EVER for him in a 12 round fight. Gun shy. There were opportunities to open up, and Floyd was taunting him several times in the bout to do so. Manny was gun shy and didn't want to.

    If you want to claim Manny didn't have the opportunity to throw more punches than he did, I don't know what to tell you. The opportunities were there, Manny just wasn't willing to pay the price of admission. (A landed punch from Floyd)
     
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  5. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    You don't think KO6 was in the back of Pac's mind evertime he thought about engaging Floyd?
     
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  6. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he didn't he knocked him out for sure that's great but before that moment Pac was controlling and landing at will.

    They should rename Mayweather the weather man because the storm from philipines look like a breeze. Also he makes it rain, you know it.

    Long live the king!
     
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  7. Le Tombeur

    Le Tombeur Member Full Member

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    The school of boxing is "hitting and not get hit". The process to get there differs from boxer to boxer.
    Floyd didn't get hit much but also he didn't managed to hit Pacquiao that much.
    He only "teached" half of the course. Not enough for a complete "schooling". Sorry.

    You make it sound like Manny was on a defence the whole night :lol:
     
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  8. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The man didn't want to throw punches. Can you explain why Manny didn't even average 40 punches per round? :lol: How many punches did he throw per round against Chris Algieri? And Chris was backing up far more than Floyd. Floyd was "staring at Pac." The Cobra (Pac) was afraid of the Mongoose (Floyd).

    Manny wasn't willing to pay the price of admission to force the issue on Floyd. (Floyd landing a punch) Maidana and Hatton "were willing" to pay the price of admission. That's why Floyd was forced to fight against them, but not against Pacquiao. Pac was "content with taking a loss." It was shameless. Floyd did what Floyd does, snipe from the outside while staying defensively responsible. Manny was supposed to force the issue remember?

    There was no need for Floyd to open up needlessly in a fight he was "easily winning." My question to you is why aren't you critical of Manny Pacquiao for not going for broke and risk going out on his shield?

    Did you honestly believe "look for 1 big left, then flurry" was going to work on Floyd? That's the "I don't want to take punishment during my loss, and give me my check" strategy against Mayweather. Pac was trying to counter punch the counter puncher FFS. - That's not just losing, that's accepting it.
     
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  9. Le Tombeur

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    Because he was running and clinching, yes and because unlike Algieri, Floyd is definitely more dangereous on counter punches. You can't just jump on him like that.

    Pacquiao failed to cut the distance and engage with Floyd but don't make this sound like Manny was scared or something. NO, Floyd was EXCESSIVELY CAUTIOUS in this fight. Never have been like that. NEVER. Every attack from Pacquiao was being avoided and not even countered as he knows to do. Indeed he was a poor counter puncher last night. Exactly. He was scoring mainly with jab and some light right hands (not many of them clear shots). Actually Pacquiao managed to counter him in a better fashion (4th and 6th round moments were from counter punches).

    Unfortunatelly Manny couldn't do that in every round and that's why he lost.

    Come on, a part from the 1st and the 11th round which were all great Mayweather rounds, he just did the bare minimum to win the others.
    That's schooling for you ??? That's sad really if you feel that way.


    You're just telling me that Manny lost the fight. I don't dispute that.
    So just because Manny didn't jump on him too often, somehow Floyd is justified for his poor offensive match ? No way. He speculated, got the win; congratulations to him. Let the schooling to be something else.

    So you're admitting that Mayweather didn't do much on the offence; just barely enough to win rounds (not all clearly).

    He didn't do **** to Pacquiao dude. You don't recall nothing from Floyd's performance. Just scorring and scorring little punches to win rounds. Sure, he had a wonderful defence and that's about it.
    NO SCHOOLING OK ?

    Let's get boxing to its fundamentals. PUNCHING. The harder, clearer and sharper you do it, the better it is. Floyd failed to put on a masterpiece from this point of view. Didn't do it. Just pointing out obvious facts here, ok ? As I told you already, he had lots and lots of matches where he landed hard punches on his oppponents. Not today. Sorry. That's why Pacquiao thought he won. He was barely hit hard by Floyd.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    It was much closer than what a lot of people are suggesting. I think a rematch would be nice, but it probably won't happen.
     
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  11. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    Mayweather schooled : Pac, Roach, 60% of all the people watching and his own father. Don't tell me he did not school Pac. :)
     
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I didnt think Floyd schooled Pacquiao, but did think Floyd won and looked very composed.
    I scored it 115/113 for Floyd.
    Had it all even after 10 rounds with Floyd winning the last 2, but if the fight had of only been a 10 rounder and the whole 10 rounds were just one big round, then I would have favoured Floyd
     
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  13. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    pac was injured floyd fought a one armed man
     
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  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I have no doubt it was and he also was thinking about how Mayweather got Hatton out of there also. Pacquiao literally did not know what to do after the first round and then was scared to engage for fear of getting countered. He didn't even try yet he and his fans are claiming he won the fight by landing 81 punches :lol::rofl

    He got no advice that I heard from Roach who looked like a zombie the whole fight. Floyd reduced him to looking like a novice.
     
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  15. pirate69

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    It was a schooling when you consider that was suppose to be his greatest foe/threat. He never once lost composure and beat Manny the same way he beat everyone else, thats what makes it so impressive, manny was handled just like the rest of them...
     
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