Let's get a consensus list of all of fighters...

The fight with Pineda was not close, on any level. The Cervantes fight was. A SD if I recall correctly.

First of all, where do you come up with this mess about Pryor being a great boxer? He was extremely unorthodox, could slip punches and fire back at the same time, and was more accurate than his style would suggest, but against a boxer off the backfoot, you think that style works effectively? Against the stationary Arguello, sure, but not against Pea. What was so great about Pryor's footwork? His balance sucked, which lead to a lot of his KD's, whereas Chavez was much more balanced. I'd take Pryor over Chavez though.

 

Floyd counters effectivly off the ropes, its a classic Mayweather style. His father even did it when he was a pro. He rolls his shoulder and brings the right hands up top as his opponents is coming in. His counter uppercut and check left hook would come into play in this fight as Duran walks in. Look at what happened when he countered Oscar on the way in off the ropes, his legs buckled. Also, he lost rounds because he is adjusting to his opponents style. Just like the Judah fight, the Hatton fight, The De La Hoya fight, the Chavez fight, and many other big fights. He always comes on mid to late in fights when he has figured out his opponents style. Also, you think that Duran would be hitting Floyd all day? lol, thats laughable. Floyd is too good defensivley and simply too skilled to be hit at will against anyone. He rolls his shoulder and nuetralizes shots.

 

He would be hitting Floyd, though not exactly clean hits all fight. But, make no mistake, not just Duran's putput, but his variety in punches, would cause him to land clean often as well. Castillo was able to rough Floyd up and land clean shots inside because of it. Duran had so much more variety than Castillo.

 

Again, he counters off the ropes. Since when have you seen Mayweather just go into a shell and let his opponents hit him? He would not brawl with Duran, he would box Duran and be defensive as he was against Corales, Especially since that fight was at lightweight. Mayweather had better power down there and would surely have enough to make Duran respect him. Duran would be getting countered by a hard puncher and would have to be on a constantly moving target for 15 rounds, tough task.

 

The Corrales fight was at 130.

Mayweather doesn't just let his opponents hit him, but against an inside fighter as immensely skilled as Duran(moreso than Floyd, so it's not like Floyd would be landing the cleaner, better blows off the ropes, like he was doing against Hoya) he would not be fighting as effectively. You underestimate Duran's infighting skills if you think he would be coming off second best at any stage when the fight is mid or close range.

 

Fair enough but styles make fights, and we know the styles of Duran and Pep could not be more different.

 

Floyd is better head to head than Pep in my opinion, to go along with being bigger, stronger, and more powerful at 130. Duran has the perfect style to beat Floyd if you ask me, for all of the reasons outlined in my argument with Slicksouthpaw.

 

This is why the fight would be close IMO. Durans pressure and body work, and Mayweather's boxing ability and ring generalship.

 

Castillo was a non-stop volume puncher against Floyd? No, quite simply he wasn't. He applied educated pressure and threw punches with measure. He didn't throw and throw and throw like Chavez and Hatton.

If anything, Duran is busier than Castillo and there is no doubt whatsoever that he puts on more pressure than him.

As I've said before though, the key for Duran isn't his offense, for many have hit Mayweather before, Duran will do that as well, but the key will be that Mayweather will actually struggle to hit Duran in return, because Duran is immeasurably better defensively than either Castillo, Chavez or Hatton.

As such, and taking Duran's pressure and output into account I see Mayweather being outworked and outscored. When Mayweather 'adjusts', he'll find that Duran isn't there to take the punishment that the others Mayweather fought did. If you have any doubt about this see the defense on Duran in the Leonard fight, a faster, bigger hitter than Mayweather, who struggled to land anything clean on Duran the whole fight in Montreal.

 

Mayweather is faster than Leonard is, he is also more accurate and the better tecnically sound pure boxer. Like i have said before, Duran won the first fight with Leonard because he dragged him into a brawl and made him fight his fight. Never did you see Duran out box Leonard. You witnessed what happened in the second and third fight. Also, do you really think that Duran beats Mayweather in a tactical battle? Please. Also Castillio brought smart pressure on Mayweather. He would go to the body and take advantages when Floyd would go on the ropes. (Floyds left hand was actually broke in that fight)

 

At 147? Not at all true. Leonard was clearly faster at the weight. Floyd at 135 P4P vs Leonard at 147 speed-wise? Pretty close. Leonard always had faster combos, but overall I'd say Floyd was slightly quicker in terms of movement, though not in terms of handspeed.

Virgill Hill was more technically sound than Roy Jones. Means not a damn thing.

Duran was ancient in the 3rd fight, and any account other than a biased one will tell you that he was not at his best in the 2nd fight. He was very drained from making weight after balooning up to 200 pounds and back down to 147 in a span of a few months.

Absolutely. Why not? How the hell do you find that hard to believe? Because Duran wasn't a pure boxer like Floyd means he wasn't tactical? Castillo arguably beat Floyd using his own tactics.

So Castillo could do it but not Duran? Duran's pressure would be far more aggressive and overwhelming, and he brings more power and overall craft than Castillo. On the inside, Duran outclasses Floyd.

 

I said that Maywether was more technically sound than Ray Leonard was.


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It would have been the same result. Duran would never beat a Ray Leonard that sticks to his game plan and avoid slugging. You see what happened in the second fight.

You are insane if you think that Castillio out boxed Mayweather and Duran would out box Mayweater. Castillio won the fight when mayweather was against the ropes, he simply out worked Maweather. Mayweather would outclass Duran on the outside and pretty easily. Mayweather has too much weaponary for Duran on the outside. The lead right hand would be blinding and the counter check left hook would also come into play.

Two completley different fighters. You always seemed like you didn't know that syles makes fights. Duran is not even a pressure fighter and since when have known him to hunt a brilliant pure boxer down? I have only see him fruatrate Leonard and make him fight his fight, which is how he won the first fight. Duran is not that hard to predict and Mayweather would eventually figure his style out.

 

And I said what I said, it means not a damn thing.

I just told you what happened in the second fight. You clearly don't read my posts before responding. It's very annoying. I think you do it on purpose so as not to have to respond to anything difficult.

When did I say that? You said a tactical battle. Bullying up against the ropes, pressuring, and using roughing "tactics" are indeed tactics. Therefore it's a "tactical battle".:good

Duran would do the same to Floyd on the inside, difference being, he would actually hurt Floyd.

Why would the check-hook come into play? This makes you sound like a fanboy. He did it once in his career against Hatton, and you think it comes into play for what reason?

:admin Are you trying to upset me? Or was that all serious? Duran is not hard to predict? He's one of the most versatile fighters of all time. Duran is not a pressure fighter? In that case, Floyd is not a boxer.:good