lets have a serious discussion about who is the middleweight champion

Seeing as boxing has no "official" governing body, the answer to your question is no..

 

Fixed it for ya. :good

 

From wiki:

Lineal championship is the theoretical title meant to represent a singular "true" Champion in a particular weight class division in combat sports such as professional boxing, kickboxing and mixed martial arts (MMA).

Within each combat sport there are different sanctioning bodies and promotion organizations which name and recognize their own champions. This creates a scenario where, within each sport, there may be multiple competitors recognized as "champion," per weight division. These different organizations also maintain the right to arbitrarily strip a title from a champion for reasons other than the win/loss results of a competition in the ring or cage (e.g., contractual disputes, suspensions). The Lineal championship title is intended to negate this.

Rather than having an "alphabet soup"[1] of champions and rather than adhering to the inclinations of one particular organization over another, the premise of the lineal championship is to base the championship title on the actual win/loss results of a competition and maintain a singular direct line of championship title succession."

We can't just establish a lineage because we feel like it. It is what it is. Often times the lineal champ isn't the best fighter in s division. Canelo won the lineal championship LAST NIGHT, and people are already trying to establish a new/separate lineage?

 

110% wrong. Name me two bigger fights in boxing right now.

GO!

This is a super fight with two men in their primes fighting for many titles at middleweight. One is undefeated, the other has just one loss on points.

If Alvarez ducks GGG, he's going to have his machismo card revoked.

 

Crisco ... :-(

 

Easy.

Mayweather Pacquiao rematch
Mayweather Canelo rematch
Cotto Canelo rematch

 

It was 155. If you say the contracted weight is the division the boxer fought in then you open another can of worms. Almost everyone is rated in the wrong division. Forget titles and just think of it as a fight. Your method is adopting the sanction bodies rules. What happened is a super-welterweight (Cotto) beat a middleweight (Martinez) the super-welterweight defended twice at super-welterweight, the fight against Saul Canelo Alvarez who was a super-welterweight.

 

That is a MIDDLEWEIGHT fight. Last night's contest was in the MIDDLEWEIGHT division for the true and legitimate MIDDLEWEIGHT title. Get over it already...

 

The jmw limit is 154, fighting at 155 makes this a mw fight. 160 is the max limit, not the obligatory weight. Although the wbc mw title was stripped from Cotto, it was still on the line for Canelo. Fighters don't have to weigh the same. Cotto could have come in at 147 last night, would that have made him a ww? I'm trying to follow your logic here.

Cotto was the lineal champ:

Hopkins-Taylor-Pavlik-Martinez-Cotto-Alvarez.

 

I disagree Cisco. That adopted would mean 95% of fights are assigned to the wrong division. It was just a fight forget the WBC bit. Everyone is realistic about weights when assigning them to the correct divisions. 155 v 153.5 is a super-welterweight fight not middleweight.

 

Des; What division do you rank Miguel Cotto in tomorrow morning?

 

Last night's fight was in the middleweight division. Middleweight is anything above 154lbs to the 160lb limit. These are the FACTS.

 

Still at MW. We don't to pick and choose where WE want to assign someone. His last bunch of fights have been exclusively as a MW, against a MW opponent. Until he shows otherwise, that's where he gets ranked. Should we rank Canelo as a LHW?

I think you are making an idealistic argument, but the reality of the sport is fully in the other corner.

 

Mayweather is retired, why even bring him up?
Fact is: GGG-Canelo is one of the biggest fights right now among active boxers.