Let's Hear It For Sugar Ray Leonard.

No stupid. leonard's response to his conquerors Norris and Hector, the two fighters he was supposed to beat with ease.

He just stood there frozen on the ropes the way he did with Terry the moment Hector caught his chin which was never much to begin with.

Let's not pretend. People who were expecting an easy Ray Leonard win were pissed over the outcome and it showed on their faces. I know that you and especially Griffo would give anything to see Leonard add those two to his list of name fighters to the win column.

Undoubtedly, would brag to no end about how he handled the young upstart Norris and shut the clown-loudmouth Camacho just as I have the luxury to rub it in and will do so for time without end. And the best part is that no gift decisions were involved and no controversy-just a good old fashion ass kicking!

Griffo as you can see, was all bent out of shape over the outcome-especially when SRL was supposed to win. That's why he comes out with typical excuse nonsense about Leonard's calf. As I recall, it was Leonard's chin that Hector's left hand came crashing down on, not his leg.

Leonard always had an excuse for all his defeats so you should never believe him. i thought it was shameful the way he took the mike in his hand and tried unloading his new excuse for losing. His leg was fine.

i really don't see the importance of comparing career accomplishments-that leonard accomplished twice what Hector did with half the fights.

What do I care if Leonard wins two titles in one night or if he gets gift decisions? Hector beat his brains out, that's all I care about.

 

Most of the ones that had Leonard ahead, had Hagler winning. Pay attention pecker breath.

 

He's like a broken fukking record really isn't he

As predictable as he is delusional, and that is really saying something

 

You know they only see what they want to see, or would like to see

:roll:

 

I wonder who Street Lethal really is? :huh

 

Pearl also said he gave Hearns ever chance to punch back but he didn't. Tommy was spent. Accept reality. Steward agreed with the stoppage and the NY Times (who I'm sure you'll quote sooner or later ) said Pearl's performance was 'flawless'.

 

Gee, i wonder

 

This thread has been another, good, laugh.

 

I thought the sore tummy was an excuse myself until another poster put on an article from Randy Gordon himself.

So it's not my excuse. Dropping 40 + pounds that fast was a major factor in how Duran performed. Not to mention he was on diurretics and as Randy had said "Duran was in no condition for a 15 round fight". If Randy said it, it must be true.

Hagler was old and slow which we all know but won't acknowledge, as well as heard on the tape, round six, by leonard himself and quoted by Tim Ryan.

Tommy at 145 which affected his performance. Same as what Clancy said frequently throughout the fight and just as critical of Ray's performance.

So all of this negative comments as you like to call it is based on observation and opinions from those in the know, expert sources including Ray himself and all I'm doing is pointing it out as a reminder.

As for Hector, it doesn't matter to me if he never won two titles in one night. No one else has either. :smoke

What does matter is head to head which cancels out the importance of all of leonard's tarnished victories,, even his tko win over Lalonde. In fact, I can tell you from experience that it's far more satisfying to see a head bashing instead of fantasizing over it the way you and John do.

You know, bragging rights.

 

At least Griffo has the nerve to defend his position.

 

I know, the fact that i've not been in Haglers camp weeks before the Leonard fight where everyone was amazed by how shot Hagler suddenly was, makes me unconfident on this matter.

 

Funny, but I don't wonder who you really are, although I am coming to believe that you and JohnThomas1 are the same person using different nicks (I guess I can understand why opinions such as your require false support through the proliferation of nicks).

We use nicks and not our real names for a reason. I don't want to know who you really are. I want to argue about ideas. But if it helps make you feel more secure, I can tell you that I am not a sports writer or a former boxer, so there is no trickerying going on. I'm just a huge fan of the sport of boxing.

 

This doesn't make any sense. You want to try that again?