Let's just say it: Moses lost to a tough, limited contender and as of yet has accomplished nothing.

Absolute speculation and borderline codswallop!

As it stands right now, we KNOW Itauma couldn't even go 9 against a fighters who's ONLY gameplan was to gas him and drown him late!

Maybe Itauma could have gone 12 with Franklin, maybe he coulnd't, he closed it in the 5th so that's spilled milk - but he WAS blowing hard before that round...

The fight did NOT show us that "there's nothing Hrgovic can do against an Itauma that can go 12", absolute mince that statement, it's as preposterous as saying "there's nothing Usyk could have done against a Fury that was better conditioned than him" based on the first fight where Fury started to drown...

Maybe a 24 year old Itauma could beat this or ANY version of Hrgovic, but that's too early to tell, plenty of if's buts and maybes in there to be making statements with such certainty.

Much of Itauma's gastank emptying seemed like it might be anxiey / panic related, it's possible he NEVER gets that under control, just like it's possible that he can't (or won't) put in the work to rebuild his style to pace himself behind a jab and well considered counters.

 

Tale as old as time, mind, isn't it?

"If only xyz fighter fixed this flaw, he'd be amazing"

But oftentimes it doesn't happen - either because it can't, or because there's a lack of will, self-control or intelligence there to make a change and make it stick.

Some fighters learn, improve and become much better versions of themselves.

Few fix huge gaping holes in their overall package - and more than a few try and wind up causing other problems that didn't exist before.

 

Yeah, it's weird people think this is just a nothingburger blip on Itauma's eventual march to being the greatest HW of all time. Cognitive dissonance, I suppose.

Wilder never learned how to actually box. It ended up killing his career. He had plenty of time to learn and fix it and never did.

Fury never learned how to stay disciplined and in shape year round. Could have worked on it and become an all-timer, but it wasn't in his make up as a person to do it.

Moses seems lazy and entitled and kind of an idiot. He also clearly has major stamina issues. He's only 21, so maybe he gets it together and wildly improves, but it's far from a given. Like I've posted elsewhere, he's had these exact same problems going back to the start of his pro career. So he hasn't bothered to work on these problems so far, but these people think he's all of a sudden going to? It seems just as likely that the people around him blow smoke up his ass, convince him he just needs to hit the treadmill a little more next time, and continues on business as usual. It's going to take a dedicated, psychotic approach to reworking his entire fighting style while having a relentless work ethic to improve his gas tank and skills. Does he really strike everyone as that type of guy?

 

Some really good points here.