Lets Play... "Defend That Statement!"... Fitzgerald, Your Up First...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by acb, May 15, 2008.


  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    You guys say this or say that ... if Floyd stood the chance to make 20m to fight any guy you guys name - he'll jump at it .... his ego is much bigger than what you guys think ... he doesn't think he's going to lose ... he'll fight anyone ...

    Cotto is no different than any fighter out there ... he doesn't possess anything that makes him stand out ... he doesn't have something that you can say is better than another contender at WW.

    Floyd knows he can beat Cotto ... its a matter if Cotto will be satisfied with a big payday and a loss.
     
  2. Sandmanl337

    Sandmanl337 Pactard Full Member

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    Just because he has a few titles and isn't use to losing doesn't mean it's guarenteed he won't lose as a pro..
     
  3. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this is the problem with your logic. you feel that a name is bigger than the sport. i could give a rats ass about how popular a fighter is. this is not a beauty contest, it is boxing. and if a fighter has fought his way up, and is not popular he is still desreving of a title shot.
     
  4. C Money

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    Clout??:lol: Its not about Clout, its about being the best and the HISTORY OF CHAMPIONS Floyd dont no nuthin about:nono

    If SSM is a gatekeeper? Please defend the DLH2 fight:lol:

    If PBF beats Cotto, SSM, Quintana Williams winner? He LEAVES THE PROOF :D
     
  5. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    What about FLoyd's arsenal?

    He has more weapons than any fighter in the division ... he's faster than any fighter in the division ... he has better defense than any fighter in the division ... he has an underrated chin (unlike Cotto) ... he a precise puncher ... his punch stats aren't matched by any fighter in the sport.

    He's never looked winded or bruised or hurt or cut ...
     
  6. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and tyson knew he was going to beat douglas, and we all saw how that turned out.
     
  7. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    No but the name makes the bout ... how much sense does it make for Floyd to fight a fighter like Oktay Urkal on WCB? ... what sense would it make for Floyd to fight an unheard of Carlos Quintana (in his first championship fight) for a vacant title ... Floyd would take more heat for that than he is now.

    Thats like matching up Floyd w/ Cosme Rivera on PPV ... a guy that has no clout and no one has heard of as far as being on the elite level.

    You need two names to make a big fight ...
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

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    Tyson and Floyd are two different fighters ... Floyd hasn't fell victim to outside distractions and his team is solid ... you see his trainer had a rubber glove with some cold water in it ...

    Douglass was knocked down and didn't beat the 10 count ...
     
  9. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no YOU need two names. i want to see the fighter who has earned the right by fighting.
     
  10. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    So Floyd's resume hasn't given him the right? ... he hasn't paid his dues .... given the fact that he's been a pro since 96'

    given the fact that he's been a champion since 98' ... given the fact that he's won 6 world titles in 5 different weight class ... he's held to a high standard in the eyes of boxing fans ... and by many posters on these boards - he won't be considered great till he fights Wlad Klitschko.

    Ricky Hatton was supposed to give him trouble (his speed, his relentless style, the pressure)
    Zab Judah was supposed to give him trouble (he's a true WW and is just as fast and stronger than Floyd)
    Baldomir was supposed to give him trouble (he's a big WW)
    DLH @ 154 was supposed to give him trouble (a weight that FLoyd has never been to ... Oscar has fought at MW ...)

    each and every time the guys that he's beat has been discredited even though they are very accomplished fighters.

    Its one thing or another with this FLoyd ... he's never doing enough in the eyes of his most hateful critics.

    He fights Sharmba Mitchell ... oh he needs to fight a real WW and a WW champion ... he fights Zab Judah ... oh he needs to fight a big WW ... he fights Baldomir ... oh Baldomir was a bum (even though he had the WW championship) ... he needs to fight Hatton - he ducked Hatton at 140 and Hatton won a WW title ... oh Hatton was over rated - he sucked ... now he needs to fight Cotto ... I wonder whats going to be said about Cotto once he loses ... one by one the get beat ... and with one victory ... comes 10 more serious challenges.

    Its weird how a Cotto win over Judah holds more weight than a Mayweather win over Judah.
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't feel all those guys are characters. And PacDbest would tell you himself that he believes every word he says.

    Anyways, I wasn't asking you a question anymore than you were asking me why you are debating about Bigtime. To be fair, you were criticized after you criticized. You see your point as valid, and I am sure ACB sees his as valid.
     
  12. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sorry to tell you this, but all of this comes with being champion. there will always be a new young gun coming for you. the true champions throughout the history of this sport have stepped up to the challenge.

    you clearly have no problem with floyds statement of i ain't calling out no ww after he beat hatton. but personally, if as ww champion he isn't looking to fight ww he needs to retire.
     
  13. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the best fighter of his generation.

    I say we leave it at that, for now.
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

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    No its doesn't come with the territory ... I don't hear **** about any other posters on these boards, saying **** about other guys resumes ... no one takes a look at what this guy has been through to get to this point ... no one takes a look at the skill ... no one takes a look at the fight ...

    "oh if Floyd beat him, he's a bum"

    especially on these boards ... there's more bashing than appreciation ... this is a "hurting" sport ... and this guy has never been hurt ... and has a few shutouts on his resume ... where fighters landed less than 30% of their punches ...

    no one talks about Cotto's resume, Calzaghe's, or Pacquiao's ... its all about Floyd.

    Floyd has more champions on his resume than all of those fighters combine ...
     
  15. fitzgeraldz

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    This guy isn't just fast ... he's not just defensive ... if you take a look at all he does ... this guy is the true definition of a complete fighter ... he can punch effectively with both hands ... he can control a fight with his jab, has has a great left hook, great right hand (from many different angles) over the top, straight, looping ... great uppercut ... great hybrid right hand (half hook - half uppercut) ... great combonation puncher ... very percise ... very accurate ...

    he can lead ... counter ... get on his toes ... stand toe to toe ... slip, duck, weave ...

    this guy can do it all ... he has a great chin ...

    name one fighter in history that has all the tools ... not some tools but all the tools ... i'm a boxing purist ... i've seen tapes of alot of great fighters from all generations ... and none of them has the skill set ... the tool box of PBF.