Lets put an end to some Bull**** around here!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by pit, Dec 28, 2007.


  1. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There allot of Floyd hater that are stating, that floyd ducked Margarito and he is now ducking Cotto ..

    here's a quote from Arum Over a year ago about floyd stand on both Margartio and cotto.

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    This doesn't sound like some one ducking margartio or cotto , it sound like someone wanting to get paid well for good fights.. which Arum was unwilling to do at the time ..

    So lets stop with the bull **** of Floyd was ducking Margartio for no reason when there was a definite issue of getting paid for future fights.

    Now Haters you can say what you want, there's the other side of the truth, take from it what you will.
     
  2. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Only idiots want to see Mayweather vs Margarito and think Floyd is scared of him. EVERYONE wants to see Cotto vs Floyd and it's a match that must happen or else Mayweather's legacy will be stained.
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    This is supposed to END IT? :patsch

    That 8 mill would have been a career high against Margarito....as well as the 6-7 mill Arum offered Floyd EARLIER.
     
  4. pijo

    pijo Feed the Pope Full Member

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    Spot on.:good
     
  5. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude you would be a fool to think floyd didn't come out better by rejecting Arum offer .. Especially when you consider he earned twice the 10 million he was Asking to fight Hatton.

    There noway you can argue with the end results .. not only that Floyd would more then likely earn 3x the 7 million Arum was offering him to fight Cotto..

    Floyd did far better with out arum then he would have with him..

    How are you thinking . :patsch
     
  6. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    I totally disagree. Just because it's a fight we all want to see happen, me included, doesn't mean Floyd's legacy is tainted if it doesn't. Floyd Mayweather doesn't owe us anything at all & I feel some people act as if he & other fighters do. A recent incident involving a former champ should serve as a stark reminder to that fact.

    I also happen to believe that a lot of people on this forum will never be happy with Floyd no matter what he does. They will continue to find new fighters they say he should beat so they can begrudge him his legacy.

    Finally, am I the only person sick of hearing the word "hater"? It's been totally over used & seems to be used to describe anyone with a difference of opinion to the person using the word. There are certain hate filled people who will use unintelligent language to express themselves & resort to vulgar cursing because they have nothing else to say. These people are not haters but just ignorant morons.

    Dan.
     
  7. Daddy

    Daddy Active Member Full Member

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    Dude, that doesn't prove jack but the fact Floyd is a greedy *******. 8 Million to fight Margarito who would most probably get beat (but Floyd's not 100 percent sure of this tho) asking 10 million to price himself out is a Cop Out not too fight him. That's Called DUCKED in non Floyd nut huggers terms. Take it as you will, you can run from the fact and/or view it any other way logical way.
    I personally do not like Floyd but I can appreicate his talents and skill. I do agree he is PVP #1. This still does not change facts again that he is using the term "Semi-Retiring" for not fighting a guy who may give him problems. Again the "Guarentee" victory is not 100 percent so the Cop-out again comes up.
    Ya see here is the reason I believe it's a cop-out. A price comes up to fight margo for 8 Mill. That's a lot of money but Floyd says who's this guy? I want 10 Mill pricing himself out. Now, here's a very Talented Hard hitting Cotto. Floyd cant say who's this, guy, because Cotto is now a Star. Floyd could easily help promote this to be bigger than Floyd/Hatton so money isn't the issue, it's the "Guarentee" victory that's the issue.
    This sums up reality and starts to make folks believe Floyd is indeed Cherry Picking his fights and or DUCKING the obvious. I do not think I've said anything that isn't true.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    No kidding he came out better. But that was NOT the case when the fight was offered now was it. Arum offerd Floyd fights for more money then ever when Floyd had NO OPPONENT. You act like all that money Floyd made AFTER THE FACT was already written in stone. Floyd was making only 5-6 mill a fight BEFORE DLH. He was offered career high paydays which he rejected. Spin it all you want...re-write history if you will. Luckily some of us remember how things actually went down.


    And BTW, w/o Arum...Floyd may or may not have done as well. Arum moved him up and got him the fights.
     
  9. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arum was clearly trying to low ball Floyd big time .. 6-7 to fight Cotto and Hatton !?!?! WTF we know dame well those fights are worth more then that !!! The Hatton Vs Floyd fight showed us that!!! The fight made 1.2 millions buys, if floyd would have agreed to 7 million he would have been ****ed out of so much money it would not have been funny.
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    As a neutral that doesn't give a **** about either, I find this whole notion that Mayweather has ducked Margarito bizarre...

    Mayweather would pick him off with absolute ease. I'd suggest the reason this hasn't happened is money, as always
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Only idiots wanted that fight? :patsch

    Margarito is and was, at the time, a legit threat to Floyd and seen as a top WW.

    And Floyd said NO to career high paydays agaisnst Margarito. At least twice. I can't think of another boxer who would turn down 8 mil when there was nothing else set in stone.
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Money? A career high payday of 8 mill against a top 3 WW is what...not enough? No one turns down career high money for a supposed EASY fight.:patsch
     
  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NO the Fact is Floyd and his people New the Cotto and Hatton fight were worth more then what Arum was offering ,, point ****ing blank .. Just because he was making 5 million doesn't mean he should keep excepting it like a fool when the fights are worth so much more .. WTF !!!
     
  14. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    Thats just pure speculation, nothings guarunteed in boxing. How can you be so sure this fight isn't going to happen anyway? You've taken facts & used them to make a speculative argument. A Floyd "nut hugger" as you put it, could quite easily make a counter argument.

    I'm a boxing fan first & would love to see this fight happen but I'm sick of people acting like spolit brats & begrudging Floyd his respect just because they may not get what they want. People seem to forget Floyd, or any other boxer for that matter, doesn't owe us anything!

    I happen to believe Floyd would outbox & KO Cotto just as easily as Hatton & before I get accused of being a Floyd "nut hugger" lets make it clear I'm English & supported Hatton for that fight. I don't think Floyd can win with some people no matter what he does.
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    Says who?

    The threadstarter has another quote, that suggests Mayweather could get more elsewhere. It's all ****ing bull****, you shouldn't believe everything you read

    I'd suggest "ducking" is far less prevelant than people like to think