Lets put this topic to bed: JMM can't beat any current top jr welter or welter period

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  1. DeathB4Dishoner

    DeathB4Dishoner Active Member Full Member

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    Something like that, 140 is still a conquerable division... Khan and maidana might be the only ones to pose a problem...147 would be to much, styles make fights and just because he can be competitive with pac doesn't mean he can take on a 160 berto, not even pac is doing that.
     
  2. Requiem4Hvywht

    Requiem4Hvywht Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well if you believe this. Then I EXPECT JMM to be at their fight and to call the winner out right after the fight.

    BECAUSE YOU BEST BELIEVE EITHER OF THEM, IN FACT ANY OF THE TOP JR WELTERS WOULD JUMP AT A CHANCE TO FIGHT HIM.

    GBP was trying to throw JMM to the wolves vs. Khan but NACHO said HELL NO. He isn't dumb.

    You won't see JMM call out the winner or Khan, or Maidana because Nacho knows he can't beat them.
     
  3. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    there is no resason why marquez can't takeover 140, marquez is an elite fighter, everyone at 140 still has to prove they are at that level. people forget that marquez is the most accurate puncher in the sport, when he lets his hands go there is no fighter in the sport that can match him, even pacquiao got bullied from side to side when marquez got going.

    marquez can beat all the fighters at 140. stylistically khan is bad for him because of his speed and size, but bradley, alexander and maidana are made for marquez.

    welterweight is probably a step too far, but fights between him and mosley would be close, if mora hurt mosley then there is no reason why marquez can't, when he gets on the inside and lets them uppercuts go then shanes chin will have to stand up or marquez would finish him.
     
  4. jgorst05

    jgorst05 Active Member Full Member

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    I give him a good chance with Alexander but ultimatly who gives a ****, the man has nothing to prove, I mean he's not even a big lw. He's an atg and one of mexico's greatest ever fighters. The only reason he took that fight with floyd was for a career high payday. He's the best lw in th world and no matter what weight PAC fights at jmm is still calling him out.
     
  5. Requiem4Hvywht

    Requiem4Hvywht Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BULL CRAPOLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JMM won't and for good reason even take on Soto at lightweight.

    Because once he does then all of those blinded by what he did 5 yrs ago at a lower weight would know he isn't the best lightweight in the world.

    And no he doesn't have anything to prove career wise but as long as you are champ you have to constantly prove you are the best against the top comp in your division.

    Which JMM is failing to do. But I am all for JMM accepting fights at jr welter.....BUT HE WON'T DO IT AND WE ALL KNOW WHY BECAUSE HE GETS BEAT THERE IN LOWER PROFILE FIGHTS!!!!!!
     
  6. unsigned_userv2

    unsigned_userv2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you being sarcastic, as JMM's fights at LW have been against the current title holders and the number #1 challenger (at the time).
     
  7. Undisputed

    Undisputed Cant G no other way Full Member

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    Pacquiao couldnt keep him down what makes you think he wont get back up????? a jr mw mayweather knocked him down and he got right back up. Please explain how you came to that conclusion.Khan has speed but as we seen vs maidana he was not as sharp in the latter rounds.I dot even have to say anything about alexander.bradleys a toss up. Jmm takes maidana as long as he stays away from his power shots.Marquez will ud margarito if he just uses his combinations. cotto vs marquez will never happen neither will marg vs marquez but then again marquez aint trying to win mw titles fighting at ww.

    So why does marquez have to face all these fighters if pacquiao owes him the trilogy?????(he gave morales a trilogy y not marquez?????)
     
  8. Requiem4Hvywht

    Requiem4Hvywht Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No the question is do you research before you make these statements?

    JMM entered into the 135lb division fighting Casamayor who everyone saw lose a fight to a journeyman but get the decision. Then we saw Casamayor win a fight with a lucky punch, that's what it was. The man was a shot fighter period.

    Then he fights Diaz on 2/28/09 AFTER Diaz has lost to Nate Campbell. Campbell fights Ali Funeka on 2/14/09.

    So instead of fighting essentially "THE MAN" at 135lb in Campbell he fights Diaz.

    He is then given a tough fight by Diaz. Then he rematches Diaz. Then he fights NOT the resurgent and top Mexican in the division Soto, NOPE he fights Katsidis. And again he his given a tough fight by Katsidis who is NOT apart of the top echelon 135lbs.

    If you think Katsidis is a top 135lb, then I ask you who has he beaten to make you think this? His best win is against the smaller Jesus Chavez when that guy is old. He went life and death with Vicente Escobedo.

    DO YOUR RESEARCH PADWAN!
     
  9. Consu

    Consu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They can knockout Marquez for sure?

    You said what :lol::lol:
     
  10. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Figure of speech - notice I said TKO?
     
  11. Undisputed

    Undisputed Cant G no other way Full Member

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    So your saying marquez ducked campbell and soto karass?? Sorry to break it to you but he outboxes both of them quite easily even if they did knock him down.Jmm getting kd should be no surprise to anyone nowadays.Dude just wont stay down.
     
  12. crimson

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    Nobody is saying he has to face all of them, just face some one in 140 or higher to say you are legit.

    I don't think anyone KO's JMM with the exception of Khan or Maidana. But I do think it is legit to say he will get TKO'd.

    PBF does not have KD power like he did in the lower weights.
     
  13. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    There is a reason why he is campaigning at 135.

    The adage in boxing is that as you go up in weight, the purse also goes up. So logically, you want to go higher in weight division.
     
  14. FraggleRock

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    I'd take Marquez over anyone at 140 barring Bradley, that would be a tough close fight that could go either way but I'd favor Marquez over the others guys there. The only one I'd see giving him problems would be Khan with his speed, but JMM is very accurate and Khan isn't hard to find, so I think he'd begin to wear him down and land at will.
     
  15. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    So why is JMM not in the mix at 140 if so many here are favoring him over the 140's instead of fighting Katsidis (WTF) and Diaz?