Lets put this topic to bed: JMM can't beat any current top jr welter or welter period

I think the better question to be asked is if JMM really wanted to fight Pac at welter or at 140 at least, then why the hell isn't he campaigning at 140 RIGHT NOW?

That will surely shut up the critics and a win over any of the contenders at 140 will surely propel him to be the next viable Pac challenger, outside of course of Mayweather.
If he does beat even just the winner of Alexander-Bradley (though to be honest I'd like a test against Berto first), then I'm all in for this fight.

After all, Arum said that he didn't want JMM because he didn't deserve the payday and that he can't fight at welter.
One win at least at JrWW will change all that.

And LOL at these JMM crybabies thinking Pac supporters "fear" a third clash.
The only "fear" we have is for a HoF like JMM to get retired from the sport ala Hatton if he pushes the fight against Pac at welter.

But yeah, he's fighting Morales. MORALES.
Let me repeat that: An unknown both in JrWW and WW that is MORALES.

Now if you JMM crybabies don't understand that, then you're no better than *******s who claim Pac will demolish SRL and *****s who still think Floyd was never the problem why the negotiations for a megafight with Pac never materialized.

So yeah:

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Since when has a fighter had to campaign at a specific weight to get a title shot there????

Pacquiao for example has walked right into a title shot in his first fight at every weight since he's left 126 lbs.....thats 5 weight classes past 126 lbs......
....... 130, 135, 140, 147, and 154 lbs....and each time Pacquiao's first fight at each weight has been a title shot.

I have no clue what the **** you're talking about.

If you believe then that a fighter should first campaign at the weight before getting a title try, then Pacquiao's every title try after 126 lbs according to you has been illegitamate.:deal

 

Wow. Another ******ed post by, well, a ******. Figures I guess.

Pac slowly inched up in weight and get this: DEVASTATED EACH AND EVERY OPPOSITION HE FACED (with the exception of Morales 1 and JMM 2).

For my owning pleasure, here is his slow ascend to welterweight:

- Flyweight up until 1999
- Super Bantamweight up until 2003
- Featherweight up until 2004 (faced MAB, JMM), everyone was either KO'd, TKO'd or at least KD (3x in a round even :hey)
- Super Featherweight up until 2007 (trilogy with Morales, JMM again), see above
- Lightweight, 2008 vs Diaz, KTFO
- Welterweight, 2008 vs ODLH, retired the **** out of the Golden Boy, Pac was looking as ripped and as quick as ever
- Light Welterweight, 2009 vs Hatton, KTFO, still having an impressive power and speed as ever.
- Welterweight (catchweight), 2009 vs Cotto, KD Cotto twice, TKO on 11, pretty lopsided fight since the 3rd round
- Welterweight, 2010 vs Clottey, landslide victory.
- Super Welterweight (catchweight), 2010 vs Margarito, yet another landslide, but weight became a serious issue, decided to go back down to welter.

If he looked awful or obviously unable to climb at any point during the weight climb, I'm pretty sure he would stop there.

Oh wait, team Pac already realized this when they fought Margo and since they couldn't even touch 150, THEY DECIDED TO STAY AT WELTER.
Pac didn't jump from 126 to 147 in a span of 2 years, idiot.
His ascends were title fights because he is just that good, his body frame was as good (if not better) than ever, he maintained his speed, power and stamina and showed tremendous punch resistance.

Now let's look at your boyfriend:
- NO FIGHT above 135
- LOOKED SLUGGISH and a FATTY at 144
- Admitted himself that he lost a lot of speed at Welterweight, where Pac retained his (and added some more power to boot) [source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Manuel_Márquez].
- Lackluster performance against Diaz. But excellent fight with Katsidis.

JMM can't fight a welterweight superstar who's generally regarded as the only real threat to Mayweather at welter since he has no business above 135.
It's called common sense really.
Something that continues to evade JMM crybabies like you.
It's the reason why Martinez-Pacquiao can't be made.
It's the reason why you can't put up Donaire against the Klitschko's.
It's the reason why team Pac has been doing catchweights BEFORE doing the full weight on a new, higher weight division when the opposition is starting to look scary huge.
It's also the reason why fighting any contender at 140 IS THE OBVIOUS FIRST STEP FOR JMM. Well not for fanboys like you I guess.

Consider your ass:

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Actually at the time Casamayor was considered the linear LW champion (and also sitting on a five-fight win-streak), whereas J Diaz was considered the best (Think '09 example: Hatton = linear, Bradley = best or '88 Spinks = linear, Tyson = best). So technically JMM became "the man" in '08 when he KO Casamayor. I won't argue that Cruz got robbed against Casamayor, but we have to stick to the official decision. If we don't stick with the decision then the linear title still comes back to JMM: Cruz lost to Pitalua, who lost to Valero. Valero (RIP) is no longer available so the linear fight is between the two best fighters in the division (Which was JMM and Katsidis)

Even if Campbell was "the man", he relinquished his titles after Funeka when he moved up in weight. Campbell couldn't even make weight for Funeka, so he had no option but to move up. Diaz picked up another title and when JMM KO Diaz and scooped the rest of the alphabet titles he became the true linear and undisputed champion.

Do you honestly think JMM ducked Campbell? He looked crap before Diaz, pulls out a once-in-a-lifetime upset over Diaz, then looks crap in the rest of his fights.

Obviously you don't rate Katsidis ability, but that's beside the point. If you followed boxing, you'd know he was the consensus #1 challenger at the time, interim-IBO champion, and mandatory-challenger.

Be careful when you try and question somebody's research without doing likewise, or else if they call your bluff you end up looking like a stuck up, half-witted, scruffy-looking, nerf herder.

 

I stand by my post with facts *******......Pacquiao never campaigned and had fights at any weight above 126 lbs, in which he got title shots in every one of those weight classes.......
In Pacquiao's first fight at every weight past 126 lbs, he got title shots in!:deal


In the picture you posted, that makes you the fat tub of lard!yep

 

1.) Pac does not owe JMM trilogy because their record is 1-0.
2.) Pac-Morales needs trilogy because after the 2nd fight, their record is 1-1, which is like a draw.

 

Simply pacman doesn't owe that ***** of a looser anything.

 

That's right, keep ignoring that JMM did terribly at 144 while Pac kept on maintaining his speed and power with each weight climb and keep proving around here that your ass got:

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five pages of balanced discussion.

you sure put that one to bed

 

Pacs first fight with Morales at 130 was not a title shot unless your bumping the WBC international POS

His first fight at 147 was against Oscar again for no title/

Your just lying now Pac never got a shot at JMM at 130 till the morales trilogy was over, He got shots first at 35 and 140 but he was P4P when he met Hatton anyway. Matter of fact Hatton came to the ring first as he considered himself challenger so I dont know what you are talking about there?

 

*******ism at its finest. Find one thread or one post in this forum that says marquez did ****en great at 144 vs MAYWEATHER.

 

requiem you're half mexican? that explains the hard on you used to have for margo.

 

Gago