ok cool, i am a fool, because some ***** who knows nothing about boxing says so! vitlay was a great champion, no one else defended the belt as many times as he has and beating world class opposition in kirk whale johnson and danny the brixton legend bomber/killer williams. atsch atsch atsch
on resume, hes no where near the top, on ability alone, he matches a lot of ATG wether u hater like it or not, its the truth.
Everyone in the world who knows boxing is a fool then. Vitali is a tough guy he's proven that but on the other hand he hasn't really done anything so how can you call him great? Maybe he could have been if he wasn't fighting big fat useless arseholes and calling them title defences but.....
Mendoza, I've always thought Vitaly was top notch, but after your efforts to hype him up, I'm now having second thoughts. Bringing up the Byrd loss reminded me of Danny Williams v Mark Potter for the British championship. Danny's shoulder injury was horrific and actually made me feel sick, but he came through it to knock Potter out. Perhaps if Vitaly showed that kind of heart and courage then we might think more of him. I'm not such a big fan of the man after your post.
Let me try to explain it another way. Vitali basically came up as a pro in the late 90's around the same time as fighters like David Tua, Oleg Maskaev, Hasim Rahman, Andrew Golota, John Ruiz, Kirk Johnson, Mike Grant, Lou Savarese, Shannon Briggs, Chris Byrd, Ike Ibeabuchi, and a few other guys. During this time for the most part these guys were all fighting each other, and making their way up through the ranks. Vitali on the other hand stayed in his country and brought over handpicked guys to fight always avoiding the real tough fighters and the guys with real punching power. Usually a fighter starts stepping up his competition around his 15-20th pro fight to prepare himself for the upper echelon of the division. Vitali for the most part did not. Fighting guys like Obed Sullivan, Louis Monaco, Orlin Norris, and Vaughn Bean are all a step below the competition I mentioned. The better fighters are not going to just quit or give up like the Julius Francis and Louis Monaco level fighters, they're going to keep fighting until theyre stopped. Look at Brewster for example, he was getting his head handed to him but he fought on and eventually caught up to Wladmir. Thats what makes a great fighter. All fighters at some point are faced with adversity and the ones who fight through it are the ones that move forward. Lennox Lewis had it with Ray Mercer, Wladmir had it with Sam Peter, and Vitali had it with Lewis. Contrary to what many think on this website, Vitali was starting to fold in the Lewis fight. He hadnt been prepared properly to fight a guy like lewis who wasn't going to give up like many of the others Vitali had faced previously. He was slowing down, and Lewis was landing harder and cleaner towards the end of the fight. Keep in mind too, this wasnt the best Lewis, this was the Lewis who was ready for retirement. So while Vitali was winning, his spirit was being taken away from him as the fight progressed, and thats why Lewis was able to take his face apart. To me Vitali was a good solid fighter with good potential, but he never fought the caliber of opposition to prepare him for the better level fighters, and when he did step up to the best of what was left of Lewis, he failed. So to call him a great fighter or an established champion is absurd off of two meaningful fights both of which he lost. :smoke
Here's the litmus test. Just tell me why Byrd or Lewis never accepted a re-match fight with Vitali. :deal
Because Vitali either failed or quit the litmus test and deserved nothing. How may attempts does your hero need before he can actually succeed is the hard question to you and one you can't answer.
Vitaly is as overrated as Ike Ibeabuchi, his name shouldn't ever be mentioned in the same sentence as Holy, Tyson and Lewis.
at the thread title. Clearly a gee up, although with a very good point. Despite that, Vitali was the best heavyweight since Lewis and before his brother. What, 5 years? Not the GREATEST longevity, but a good fighter nonetheless.