Lets Say Calzaghe Beats Jones And Retires.

before anyone starts taking this guy too seriously i advise you to just check some of his recent posts in the general forum.

your typical "LOLZZZZ THE EUROBUMS SUCK!!!! yooouuuu esssss ayyyyyyyy!" type of poster.

 

Agreed.

 

Calzaghe is not an ATG by any standards. If you look at what people base his legacy off of it really is unimpressive. He beat an overrated Lacy, beat another Euro hypejob in Kessler and beat a 43 year old Hopkins. Joe too, looked old while fighting Hopkins and won by a point. He has been taking the road of least resistance his whole career and doesn't deserve to be rated as an ATG.

 

How do you know Kessler is a hype job? He hasn't fought since the Calzaghe fight and before that he looked very impressive. I know a lot of people thought he would be too much for Calzaghe.

 

Gomez fairly easily IMO.

Calzaghe spent too many years not doing enough. Sure it was far from all his fault, fate dealt him a bad hand. If he was 5 years younger or 5 years older he could of had an all-time great resume. But sadly his resume is only very good to excellent. Gomez resume was a level above that, and thus that is why he would be rated higher pound for pound.

 

Similar criticisms have been made about other fighters during their perspective times. I have a feeling, in another 20 years or so, Calzaghe will be appreciated. That is of course, by whatever few boxing fans are still lingering around at that point...

 

Yes, I would agree with what you say, but with this proviso; these type of fighters are 20 years on very often overated and overexposed in the way they were underrated and underexposed whilst still fighting.

I like to think (maybe too simply) that you know someone is great when he is still fighting, if not then, then no matter how underappreciated they were, they were a level below great at best.

 

A cancer you seem to have yourself.....

 

True,

Calzaghe will become what his own fans make of him. In all honesty, I can't ever imagine his name reaching the heigths that Marvin Hagler, Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Carlos Monzon or Ray Robinson reached... For one thing, his resume does not warrant it, and I doubt that at this stage in life, he's going to do anything spectacular to make up for it. For another, he had the misfortune of fighting during a time when being a championship boxer no longer holds the same sort of prestige that once held. Had he been a long reigning world champion with a 45-0 record, anytime prior to the last 15-20 years, his level of charisma would have been much higher, I believe.....

 

It's too easy to put down his big fights... Lacy was not thought to be a pushover when they fought. Kessler is a top fighter and Hopkins, although old, was coming off wins against Wright and Tarver (probably the best 2 of his career). The problem for Joe is that he spent years at 168 before going for a unification fight. If he'd have been ruling the division like a Hagler or a Monzon then fair enough but there were Q's right up until Kessler. So even if you now consider him the man at 168 that means in a comparison with Carlos and Marvin, Joe currently has zero defences. To be consistent to Joe though this can be said for almost all of the top 10 p4p fighters over the last 10-15 years...

 

I had no problems with Joe until the Hopkins fight. I thought Hopkins won that fight. Joe doesn't. Joe believes he won. I have no problem with Joe believing he won, it's just that so many others dispute it. If Calzaghe were the champion he claims, he'd offer Hopkins a rematch before entertaining other offers. Real champions feel like proving they are the best. Willfully leaving doubt is not a championship quality.

I don't know that Hopkins would accept, but it would at least Joe would show he wasn't trying to De la Hoya the former champ.

 

Making bucket fulls of money, but always showing your class when needed.