Lets say Mike Tyson...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Sweet Science, Sep 24, 2007.


  1. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    ...never fought again post prison. In other words his last fight was his rematch with Ruddock in 1991.

    Lets say in prison Mike decided he had a new calling in life, studied hard and became a respectable and talented gynecologist.

    With only the one solitary loss on his record.

    How would that affect his legacy and top ten Heavyweight status?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Becoming a gynecologist in a prison of men would be interesting. Perhaps you can write the story to where he double practices in urology and proctology. He'd have a lot of hands on experience in both of these areas.
     
  3. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lets see ur top 10:lol:
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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  5. Jack Dempsey

    Jack Dempsey Legend Full Member

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    I suppose it all depends if you think that his post prison exploits tainted what went before.

    Some people rate him an ATG purely on his 86-90 career and not on what came after.
     
  6. mochabuzz

    mochabuzz Active Member Full Member

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    Fought better comp in the 90's than in the 1980's? WTF!!:nut
    The only good opponent Tyson fought in the 90's was Holyfield... Everyone else sucked!
    Overall, Tyson's opponents from his reign during the 1980's was far better than the pack of wusses he fought in the 1990's. (excluding Evander, who certainly wasn't a wuss)
     
  7. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I was referring to his alleged penchant for groping women. This way he could sorta do it legally when he got out. Could be his dream job. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on him.
     
  8. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    The number he did on The Mallard was very impressive. It'd be hard enough to annihilate Holmes like that even when Larry was 50.
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I'd have him a bit higher. I have him around 8th, that would possibly place him around 5th or 6th.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Oh boy,

    Tyson's fights with Ruddock were in 1991.
    Holmes was a good win, but not one of his best victories, as Larry was past his prime. His best career wins were Thomas, Berbick, Smith, Tucker and Spinks.

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    Yes, but these men while being his best opponents post prison, should not be listed as his best opponents nor best performances overall. Tyson beat up Bruno once when they were both younger during the 80's. Lewis, Tyson and Holyfield were all well past it when they met each other.

    Dude, I'm not trying to be a jagoff here, but you seriously need to do some reading up on your Tyson history.

    First you tell people that he's not even a top 15 fighter, then you can't even list his best wins, nor when they actually took place. That's a real good way to lose credibility and fast. I also believe that you had a similar post on this issue about a week ago. I'm no Tyson nuthugger and It's obvious that you're not either, but weather I like a fighter or not, I make sure that I have some idea about the guy's history before judging him. With all due respect, you need to start doing the same, or people here aren't going to take your posts seriously.
     
  11. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would rate him a little bit higher, I have him tenth on my ATG list, he'd probably make 7 or 8 if i didnt know much about his mental frailties. Saying that, if he had retired after the second Bruno fight he really would be a hell of a lot higher, maybe 5th or something.
     
  12. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There would be a lot more people saying that Mikes chin was solid as hell..

    His chops let him down in a number of fights after the Ruddock battles, which may i add were very Gladiatorial fights..

    Holyfield exposed Mike, twice.. Lewis did the same , followed by Williams and later Mcbride , who really finished off a rather unwilling wrecked Mike.. ( he beat himself) in other words..

    His pride would be in tact much more if he retired after Ruddock..

    But a lot more "What Ifs" Very close to the Liston type ending..

    Notorious solid once beaten tough ATG..

    instead of Junkie, Prison damaged 6 times beaten wreck of a could have been ATG.. who still gets haunted by his past..

    A damn shame..
     
  13. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfiled will be spended time in prison for drugs.
     
  14. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think he would be considered greater than he is today. the post prison years damaged his legacy as a fighter. people questioned his heart and called him a bully who could not pull off the win

    many people would be saying that he would of undoubtedly cleared up the heavyweight scene in the late 90's

    The Tyson of the 80's for me warrants a place in the top 1o heavyweights in history. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. he was sensational
     
  15. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson had a great chin. he just never had the conditioning in the fights that he lost. The punches that he took off ruddock would of knocked down a house. he took a great pummeling from douglas, lewis and holyfield before burning out