Let's say nothing was in the bottle in the first Pryor-Arguello match...

Same result. Look I'll sell anyone a packet of Ephedrine tabs for cost price that I get them for (I buy them in bulk) and you can see for yourself how much they improve your performance - alternatively buy some online and see for yourself. Ephedrine is likely the asthma medicine that was in the bottle, as it is a PED in some ways. EPH won't make you capable of beating Arguello. They won't necessarily make you smash personal records in sports like running although personally I think it gives a small edge. They arguably impede performance especially if you take too much and if you take it too close to performing and I've felt like vomiting after running before taking ephedrine. I think it gives a small edge personally but if anyone wants to try it for themselves buy some online or from myself

 

The point isn't WHAT was in the bottle or WHAT kind of edge it gave Pryor.. the point is ANYTHING BUT WATER in the bottle IS illegal and should be kept in mind when thinking of this fight and it's outcome.

 

Well ok it was illegal, no disputing that, as was Hopkins headbutting Trinidad 20+ times, whenever Tito tried to get going he got butted. Technically Hopkins could and maybe should have been DQ'ed for that many intentional butts. Would he have won without the butts, Yes he would.

 

Nah, I agree, it was def Red Bull.

 

nice dodge

 

Who gives a ****? He was winning the fight either way. A simple sugar boost isn't going to make the difference between beating an all time great like Arguello. You have to be a phenomenal fighter to do what Pryor did, and that he was.

Besides, people totally overplay what happened in the 14th round. They act as though Pryor was gasping for breath after the 13th, ready to go, and then came blasting out of his corner from the get-go to stop Arguello at the beginning of the 14th. That isn't what happened at all.

He boxed the 14th the exact same way as he'd been doing, it was only after hurting Arguello with big shots about a minute or so in that he went for the kill, as any fighter would.

 

Smoking weed is also illegal for a fighter but if I find out mayweather was high when he knocked out hatton i'm not gonna put any asterix next to the victory.

 

Odd you should post this Luf.. as I could easily find a post where you said the exact opposite less than a few months ago... I guess people can change their minds....

 

I agree the winner of the fight wouldn't have changed, even say Pryor doesn't get the KO he still gets a very wide decision although I remember seeing somewhere there was a few horse**** scorecards from the judges, sure it was on Legendary Nights, take that as you will guys.

 

I don't disagree with some of what you said.. shoot most of what you said... The point is though, that he was shown drinking out of THAT bottle not just before the 14th round but earlier in the fight. So there are two instances that show him drinking that during the fight. Which then begs the question... if they were blatant enough to do it during the fight.. you believe it's not probable they did so before the fight in the dressing room? I believe it to be very probable it happened then two.. which again not only adds to the number of times.. but adds to the number of times doing something illegal during the fight, and most likely, before the fight. No?

 

You certainly could and they certainly can.

I was of the opinion that anything illegal in any fight should cancel out the victory but the truth, as I see it now, is that anything performance enhancing should cancel out the victory.

For instance I count tyson's victory over golota and toney's over ruiz etc.

I wouldn't count mosley's over oscar in the rematch had he earned a decision.

There's not enough proof that whatever was, or wasn't, in the bottle was something that wouldn't enhance his performance.

 

I'd say Pryor wins a split decision. He was winning the fight easy, other than the dirty pro-Arguello judge.

SOMETHING was unnatural in that rush coming out for the finish. I've never seen a guy steadily wear down(Watch Aaron in the first five vs the last 3. It's stark and plain to see that he's hitting some sort of wall) and come out like its the first. However, assuming there is something in that bottle, and I do, it still doesn't change that Alexis was, in general, getting the worst of it most of the fight. He had some ground to cover, and while I can envision him winning one or both of the last two, its just not enough time.

Aaron overwhelmed Alexis through questionable means, but he was winning the fight, and that can't be disputed.

 

jesus christ WTF is wrong with all you guys ? cervantes dropped pryor so based on that theres no way in hell pryor couldve taken those straight rights from arguello over and over again but he did. which suggests to me there was something in the black bottle i mean its panama lewis for ****s sake.

without the black bottle alex knocks pryor out everytime they fight.