Lets see your top 10 P4P list

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Wladimir Klitschko
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Juan Manuel Lopez
7. Fernando Montiel
8. Timothy Bradley
9. Andre Ward
10. Andre Dirrell

11. Nonito Donaire
12. Vitaly Klitschko
13. Paul Williams
14. Chad Dawson
15. Tomasz Adamek
16. Lucian Bute
17. Bernard Hopkins
18. Miguel Cotto
19. Jean Pascal
20. Amir Khan

 

And what excatly has Bradley and Bute done to be on the top 10? Lopez i can understand, having him at 10 or maybe 9 but having him above Montiel?

Wonjongkam is the lineal Flyweight champ, and has a something like 18 succesful title defenses?

 

1. Pac
2. May

3. JMM

4. Martinez
5. Wlad

6. Montiel
7. Wonjongkam
8. JuanMa

9. Bute
0. Adamek

 

why are klitshckos in so many lists? p4p shouldnt include heavyweights, it was made to work out who was the best of the rest

 

Because there are heavyweights from 5'10'' to 7'0 from 200 lb to 270. There are orthodox fighters and southpaws. There are big punchers, boxers, brawlers, swarmers and slicksters. There are also former LHW and CW champions that compete at HW right now.

This brings a lot of variety and doesn't allow HW to be one dimensional. Fighting a lot of good and different fighters ranks K brothers high. And if you add their dominance you have elite p4p fighters.

Besides I don't see why should HW or minimum weight should be penalized.

 

same can be said for the styles in any division. i just think hw should be on their own. Why is segura in no ones p4p? 3 rd ko vs tello then knocked out calderon is pretty impressive and i have him at 10

 

I would like to see your reasons (not just yours everyone elses as well) for putting Juan Manuel Lopez above Fernando Montiel.

 

I dont think its possible to pick a top 10. after the top 3 it gets a little blurred...

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Wlad Klitschko

 

Fair Enough.

But heres how i see it: Montiel's victory over Hasegawa is better than any victory in Lopez resume, including the win over Rafa, who at 35 years old, was already shopworn and best days were at 118. Lopez was the favorite going into that fight, while Montiel was the heavy underdog against a very skilled, fast and younger fighter in Hasegawa. Luevano is NOT and NEVER was an elite. Penalosa was 36 years old fighting a young, fresher, and stronger Lopez, somewhat similair to the Rafa victory, which is Juanma's biggest to date.

On top of all this, Montiel is a 3 division champ, a unified champ, is the man in his division, has beaten the top man of his division (something Juanma hasnt done) and has something like 10 champions under his resume. So overall Montiel has the better resume, and quite frankly he's also the more skilled fighter.


:good

 

I like the way you see things. I agree completely.

 

:rofl

You rate Vitali ahead of Pacquiao! Winning the 'event' against Lewis sure trumps everything Pacquiao has achieved in his career, eh Glasscock?

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Yeah, I got lured in to that trap by BoxedEars.

Thinking about it, I don't really think he's a top 10 fighter.