Let's settle it once and for good. Do you think Wilder has a legitimate body of work for a champion?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by catchwtboxing, Jun 26, 2022.

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Does Wilder have a legitimate body of work

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  2. No

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  1. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Klitschko was an inactive, retired old man who returned for one last payday in 2017 against Joshua. As good an effort as Wlad brought forth in his losing performance that night, he was not top 10 rated because retired boxers are not rated.

    Joshua’s first defence against an actual top 10 opponent was against Joseph Parker in March 2018, just 10 days shy of 2 whole years since Joshua first became a world champion, his 5th fight as a belt-holder.
     
  2. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have to disagree. First, Looking at the rankings around the time, Klitschko was most definitely a top 10 fighter when he fought Joshua in his 3rd fight. Second, Takam was also recognized as a top 10 fighter when they fought in Joshua's 4th fight...

    Klitschko was "inactive" due to Fury messing him around and then Fury retiring in October 2016, but Klitschko was not retired until after the Joshua fight. Still considered top 10 by The Ring and PBO boxing ratings when he fought Joshua. Actually TBRB dropped him from #1 for inactivity the month they announced the fight with Joshua. Then reinserted Klitschko at #2 right after the Joshua fight.

    So, it's fair to say that what I wrote was accurate:
    It kind of seems like you don't like Joshua very much
     
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  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Wilder's whole resume is beating Ortiz twice.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only once legitimately...needed the quick stoppage the second time.
     
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  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Yeah. He was also an Olympian. People forget this
     
  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Aka very little, considering Ortiz best win was against a gatekeeper in Jennings who turned up looking about as motivated to win as Wlad did against Fury
     
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  7. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    So was Audley. Means very little.
     
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  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    absolutely not
    were never ready to fight vlad as he stated
    told whyte he werentvfight him and hed keep making him wait
    refused to sign for Joshua
    ran mid flight from sasha
    got beat a fat un fit fury
    and then came eith all the eccuses under the sun
    andbniw aint sure if he wantvanother challenge like fury
    bring back the cans and i will stay
    detony is a biatch
     
  9. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Heavyweight (Cruiserweight) bronze, wasn't it?
     
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  10. Presenting-Fight-Film

    Presenting-Fight-Film Active Member Full Member

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    So? He fought guys from bum**** nowhere to get that medal and qualified by beating other nobodies, olympics arent as people make them seem
     
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  11. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's got a poor record for a major title holder that's sure. I actually think his talent is a better than his record. Excellent power, usually decent conditioning Fury 3 aside. Akward style that worked for him.

    Stiverne 1, Ortizx2, are about the only credible wins I give him.
    The rest for a supposed top level boxer are cannon fodder. Areola well past it, Liakhovich - shot to bits and was he ever that good. Washington, Molina etc all B level fighters who have done little against the top tier. In fairness Wilder stopped them all as well. I do think a comeback against Ruiz, Whyte, etc could be entertaining. Personally there's a bit of me wants to see him Vs Joe Joyce.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    For a weak champion, yes. Apart from 1 or 2 guys, the boxers he beat were on the whole uninspiring. He did beat a lot of them though.
     
  13. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder doesn't have a good resume at all. Given the length of time he was a titlist, it may very well be in the top 5 of all bad resumes concerning HW titlists.
     
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  14. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Then you go do it.
     
  15. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Yes. Mayweather and Holyfield were also Bronze. Check your facts.