Lets settle the did tyson duck foreman debate

Who would you pick if Tyson fought Marciano chok?

 

I don't think this was anything like Foreman’s bullying tactics. He hurts Spoon with punches and pushes him off when he tries to clinch to buy time. Quite typical against a hurt and unsteady opponent. Foreman bouncing back Morrison and Biggs through 12 rds is something else completely.

 

I don't think it would end up a hugfest. Foreman showed, even against fearsome punchers, that he would just keep coming. If he'd get badly hurt, which is a distinct possibility, I think he'd try to clinch, but not before then.

 

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He said 230-240 pounds - striiiiiiiiiiiiike 2!!!!!!!

 

Seriously? This is the same as before, but with a smaller guy. This is a hard puncher KO'ing someone. Been done many times. Pushing around men of the size and strength of Morrison and Briggs hasn't.

 

Foreman was only pushing around smaller guys. Who outweighed him?

Look, George probably was the strongest boxer, but Bonecrusher was not far off. Smith was younger and coming off a better win than George ever had in his comeback when he fought Tyson. Yet for all that, There was no real talk of Bonecrusher being all wrong for Tyson. It wound up being a lousy fight because Tyson was far too good for Smith, even though he had many of the attributes he shares with the declined George Foreman on his comeback.

Witherspoon was bullied out of his fight with Smith and Tim was throwing -and landing bombs trying to stay in that fight-but Smith overwhelmed him with sheer force.

 

What on earh has that do with anything? You do realise Tyson was smaller than Foreman? Smaller than both Morrrison and Briggs as well. He was also pushed around by Holy. Did you see Holy pushing Foreman around? (and before you say that Holy was bigger and stronger in 1996 than in 1991 - Tyson gained as much muscle in those years as Holy did).

Bonecrusher probably punched as hard as old George, yes. As evidenced against Bruno, he also had a chin and a physical presence. But in those two aspects old George was in a league of his own imo. He bullied around Holy (who thugh small wasn't at all easy to bully around), Morrrison, Briggs and many more in a way that no one else came close to. He didn't need to hurt them to have them bouncing back from him.

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Tim threw bugger all bombs and landed bugger all as well. It was one very very very strange effort from him. Given that you keep thrusting it forward as meaningful i doubt you are unaware (or sneaky) of all the murkiness surrounding the bout. a 10+ pound lighter Witherspoon had cruised past Smith 18 months earlier.

 

The thing is that he'd have a much better case if he'd bring up the Bruno fight. There Smith showed that he could keep coming for 10 rds against one of the hardest punchers of the era, but he seems to confuse this ability with the ability to take an opponents legs out by hurting him with punches.

 

Bonecrusher bullied Witherspoon around- nobody really was able to bull Tim like that. I know Foreman didn’t bully a guy as big and as Current as Witherspoon was when Smith met him. And I am not saying George couldn’t bully around Witherspoon but I am saying he didn’t. In this regard, Smith should have been equal a threat to Tyson, and he just wasn’t.

 

I can see we're not getting anywhere here.

 

Smith was a real crappy FIGHTER. The emphasis on size and strength is ridiculous. George along with tremendous strength had great fighting ability. Great jab, great ring smarts, the will to win of a true ATG. Smith was a forgettable contender while George was an ATG world’s hwt champion.

 

Smith got seven days notice, he came in and just went for it balls to the wall.

Neither guy knew they would be fighting each other. It’s all sour grapes from Witherspoon after the event.

If you watch that fight, Tim desperately swung in some Hail Mary overhand rights, he wasn’t throwing no fight, he was throwing right hands! Smith just kept his momentum going until he got that third knockdown. Tim’s head was starting to clear but he was swamped with the sheer strength of Smith.

If smith had not have been so strong Tim would have got back into that fight and probably won.the three knockdown rule saved Smith.