Lets settle the did tyson duck foreman debate

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  1. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    If you had read carefully, you would have seen that I talked about the huge numbers Tyson made during his return (25 million for his first fight for example), I wasn't saying that a Foreman fight wouldn't have been lucrative.

    And yes, when it was time to sign the contract, Foreman reportedly refused several times (in 1990, 1991 and 1995) because he didn't want to sign with King.

    But I guess stating facts is being a member of " team Tyson " for you.
     
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  2. Viy

    Viy Member Full Member

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    - Sports Illustrated, Apr 29, 1991


    - NY Times, Nov 15, 1994
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Same guy who vacated a title in order to avoid Tony Tucker.
     
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  4. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Considering the waves of hate that Tyson received for knocking out a 38-year-old, I dread to think what would have happened if he had knocked out a 46-year-old. Big money? as Mike himself said, he would also earn a lot of money for a masturbation show at MSG, but not everyone is a prostitute at heart.
    From a sporting point of view, this fight was pointless. Tyson was champion in 1986-1990 and 1996. Was Foreman even briefly the top contender during those years?
    It's a good thing Mike didn't knock out George, that would have been really disgusting.
    Hey, did Foreman avoid Tucker and Shulz?
    Do Tyson haters really think that Grimsley, Savarese, Shulz, Stewart, Tucker were braver, better, more ambitious than Tyson?? I often have the impression that Tyson irritates some people so much that it turns off their logical thinking.


    1989 - Foreman is not classified, no one considers him top 10 and Tyson has three belts, he is the only heavyweight in history to defend three championship belts for the 6th and 7th time (unsuccessful)
    https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_1989

    1990-1991, Tyson fights four fighters classified higher and much younger than Foreman, with the highest classified Holyfield being the official challenger and signing a contract with him.
    https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_1990
    1995-1996 Tyson fights three higher ranked and much younger than GF rivals, 2 of whom are current world champions
    https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_1995

    funny, if George publicly claims that Tyson is afraid of him, doing a PR move typical of professional boxers, Tyson haters claim that Foreman is not afraid of Tyson, if Foreman admits after years that it was just a PR move - oh, he's just nice. At the same time, Earnie Shavers claimed that Foreman had been avoiding him since 1968 and that he would knock out Tyson. Virtually every famous heavyweight boxer said the same thing. It looks like Tyson was afraid of Foreman, and Foreman and Tyson were afraid of 50-year-old Shavers, who was knocked out by some complete boomer.

    Have mercy, people...!!
     
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  5. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And Axel Schulz, don't forget about that.
     
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  6. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And yet he fought Jake Paul. Prostitution indeed.
     
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  7. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman was the champion in 1996.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He was WBU and IBA champion.
     
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  9. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was the lineal champion with the best claim to be THE champion in the division at that point.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Maybe to guys like Bert Sugar, but Tyson was the champion to the general public.
     
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  11. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson's claim off of beating Bruno and Seldon was weaker than Foreman's who was the man who beat the man. Mike had a lot of hype behind him, but wasn't the real champion. During Foreman's shyte reign no one heavyweight emerged to take his spot.
     
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Like I said, Bert Sugar. Ditto Briggs for the Lewis fight.
     
  13. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't care about Bert Sugar, lol.
     
  14. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    Schulz was robbed blind against Foreman. And Foreman didn't gave him a rematch.
    Inversely, Tyson demolished Bruno and quickly unified against Seldon.
    Tyson had a better claim to be champion than anyone in 1996.
     
  15. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's true. But he never lost officially.
     
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