Lets stop this Tua nonsense...

cosign. He couldn't beat an overweight Rahman 7 years ago.

 

I agree with a lot of what you say, but Tua can still crack and neither Haye nor Adamek are very hard to find. Do you think Adamek would have survived if he was facing Tua instead of Arreola the other night, and he was hit with those same kind of shots? Tua is not the savior or future of the division, however, he can (still) make for some exciting fights and is probably capable of beating any heavyweight not named Klitschko right now.

 

Haye has shown he adapts to the fighter is facing rather than just having one set style. He could probably stay away from tua enuff to win a UD but it was always have the cavet of if Tua lands a left hook its over.... Not really seen much of Adamek but again Tua can be outboxed and he doesnt move that well and his lack of height and reach have always been a set back. If he decks Barret then he needs a dencet name an Arreola or Peter or Povetkin and quickly to really push him towards the top of the division. at the minute hes just a contender like a lot of other he needs to get a move on because the abilty, chin and power is there to pose a real threat

 

"Tua nonsense" would be favoring him over a Klitschko.

Giving him a puncher's chance against a pair of Cruiserweights with good enough cheens, but who far lesser punchers than Tua have floored or at least seriously gotten the attention of (at HW and lower)? Hardly nonsense.

People rooting for Tua to work his way back into world title contention aren't delusional. Hardly anybody thinks that even with his new work ethic in the gym and improved head movement, that he can beat anybody. That he shouldn't be a massive underdog if he's able to get a crack at Wladimir or Vitali. The HW division just happens to be poor enough right now that yes, even a relic from the 90's who's rededicated and inspired has a chance to become a top contender. The same way it's poor enough that a couple of Cruiserweights have a chance.

Oh...and once and for all. Please STFU about Cameron and Ahunanya as opponents, or the preceding inactivity. You're either literally ignorant of his past and present situation - or willfully skirting around it. Let him escape the damn Maori TV contract. If he doesn't immediately step up his competition and start knocking ranked suckas out (nobody lesser than say Arreola and Thompson) then fine, unleash the "same old Tua" rhetoric and laugh at anybody who talks about him even getting to the big one, let alone winning it.

No, Cameron and Ahunanya aren't top ten material. They don't "prove" anything about Tua's worth or relevance. He did TCOB against both, and didn't look bad at all. Barrett won't be much better of an indicator, and assuming Tua TCOB again (even a first-minute blowout), it still won't "prove" a damn thing. Once the moment of truth arrives and he's free from his obligations, however - then we'll see. Until then it's a waiting game.

 

I agree, Tua isn't winning a belt, its over for him. The Klits would anniahlate him, Haye would beat him handily, he might be able to beat Adamek though. Keep in mind, he is strong and will always have a punchers chance vs anyone he faces...even now.

 

sorry, i'd rather root for a HW who can crack like a SOB (tua) and has more then enough to hang with a contender, then some blown up LWH (adamek) with subpar boxing skills, limited power, and feasts off of pensioners and fat slobs. its just not my cup of tea, so sue me.

 

adamek has some of the most unimpressive boxing ive ever seen, there is nothing unique about him that makes me think he can beat tua let alone the belt holders. adamek offers nothing to tua he's never seen before. he has mediocre defense, poor footwork, and limited power, what makes you think someone with these attributes can go far? and you expect me to believe that an undersized HW with ZERO uniqueness has more of a chance then tua?? gtfo with that BS.

The thing about the undersized HW's of the past is that they all possessed something that was unique which carried them to greatness. Tyson and frazier for example were some of the most undersized HW's in the game and walked into 80% of their fights with a serious size handicap. but the thing that was unique about them was their speed, their unparralled head movement, and of course their unwordly punching power. those attributes alone make up for their size handicap.

James toney for another example, underpowered? yes, undersized? yes. but it was because of his defensive wizardry, hard chin, and hand speed that he was able to campaign at HW and go very far. so with all of this being said, what unique trait does adamek possess? he's far from being a power puncher as he went life and death with estrada, arreola, and many other subpar fighters at lighter weights. his defense is poor as he was tagged repeatedly and hurt on many occassions against arreola, who by the way has the worst punchng technique in boxing. and he's god awfully predictable, circles to his left, stops and throws a jab, circles to his left, throws combinations, repeat. lennox lewis was an ATG HW, no shame in losing to someone like him. Ibeabuchi was a hard hitting, highworkrate HW with a granite chin and still went life and death with tua. byrd was a known defensive spoiler, but he also had great hand speed and great counter punching. byrd is probably the only fighter comparable to adamek, and i still think byrd on his best day shits on adamek.

 

God damn 5 days have passed yet you and your boyfriend are still whining.

1 fight at a time.

 

I like Tua, but he's the biggest underachiever ever and still gets far too my credit and respect by his fans. Some people have him hanging with the likes of Tyson, I mean for **** sakes, the man never held a title. atsch

 

goddaman, you actually keep track of the time me and you have interracted??

 

soooo, its wrong to give someone respect for fighting and not giving up? sorry man, but im a loyal fan who wont jump ship when a fighter loses. which is obviously the norm for fans these days.

 

Yeah um today is thursday the fight was this past saturday.Not hard to figure out.

 

Most people like Tua but most of us also realise that he hasnt done spit in 10 years since losing to Lennox.

 

yea i didnt really think about it. because if this is what you do all day then i guess it wouldnt be that hard to figure out. i know we've interracted but if you ask me what time or day we did i couldnt tell you off the top of my head. apparently you do though!