Let's talk about George Godfrey

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Apparently he was one of the better African American fighters of his period. He was trained by Jack Blackburn, the same man who trained Joe Louis. Godfrey was a rather large fellow at 6'3" and who's weight ranged anywhere from 225 to 250. Fought in some 120 pro fights with about 95 of them being wins.. Both beat and lost to some of the more notable men of his era.

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  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    solid fighter and you offered a good summary. I don't know nearly as much as many but it's interesting that he may have made several fixed or shady fights, notably the inexplicable DQ to Carnera where, despite apparently dominating, he just drilled him in the balls Golota-style
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Above all, he is an enigma.

    One of those contenders who contemporary observers rave about, but when you look at his resume you just don't see it.

    Larry Gains said that he was better than Jack Dempsey.

    Dempsey himself said that he was the best contender in the world after Gene Tunney retired and also that he was more dangerous than Harry Wills.

    It is obvious that he often wore the cuffs, and was held back from acheiving his full potential, due to the circumstances of his career. Beyond that it is hard to be sure how good he realy was, or how far he could have gone. Most of the top contenders wanted nothing to do with him, and the fact that he was not being managed to reach his maximum potential, meant that they always had a valid excuse for not facing him.
     
  4. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes he was one of the sparring partners for Dempsey,along with Bill Tate. Dempsey dropped him in training a couple of times.
     
  5. mcvey

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    A young Godfrey sparring with a mid 40's Johnson.

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  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    For whatever its worth, he did have Blackburn in his corner, but I don't if that was for the duration of his career or only part of it, and nor do I know how his actual business affairs were handled.
     
  7. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was big and powerful but also lazy. Based on his record you'd have to call him one of the dirtiest fighters of all time but it is possible that atleast some were fixes. "Playing ball" never helped out the big man as he never received a title shot.

    Godfrey was good enough to beat solid professionals like Paulino Uzcudun, Larry Gains, Jim Maloney, Jack Roper, Tiger Jack Fox, Jack Renault so the man was no joke, even if not as good as he is said to have been.

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    The loss to Risko ended arguably his best and most consistent run.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Godfrey appears to be a strong specimen from some of the pictures that have so far been posted.
     
  9. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Training Godfrey may have been why Blackburn was so reluctant to be Joe Louis's trainer, as he felt no black heavyweight would ever be given a title shot after Jack Johnson's reign.

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    With Dempsey.
     
  10. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    TGA, is there any action footage of Godfrey that you're aware of aside from his match with Carnera?
     
  11. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If there is, I don't have it. But there's a lot I don't have. A couple of other posters may know better.
     
  12. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he think he was a guy with hand cuffs on for a lot of career

    had the potental to be atg maybe
    its hard to say
     
  13. janitor

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    He was trained by Langford and Blackburn at different stages of his career. That wasn't the problem.

    The problem is that he was managed by some serious sheisters, who were more interest in employing him in fixed fights than developing him as a contender. Like Primo Carnera, he never saw most of the money he was owed.

    It didn't help that he was barely litterate so he could not keep tabs on what was happening. Despite this, he comes across as a much more inteligent man than given credit for.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Heard he was a massive puncher. Don't know how true that is.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    "Godfrey was the best of them all. I've sparred with Dempsey and fought just about every good heavyweight out there and I will tell you, George Godfrey was the best. I was afraid of only two men in my life, My Father and George Godfrey."- Larry Gains