Lets talk about Glass Jaws

I take it from this post that you now accept you were wrong to keep harping on about Pac's 2 KO's as reasons for his status in your scheme seeing as they were bodyshots??


It appears that you are determined to keep Pac below guys like Mayweather, Diaz and Guzman on the scant evidence of one KD due to a jab/straight punch, disregarding how strong his chin has looked in many big fights against many strong punchers.

I recommend you watch Bernard Hopkins v Segundo Mercado and James Toney v Reggie Johnson then. Because by your reductive logic, their chins are suspect and should be rated on a par with Ricky Hatton and Chad Dawson. (I don't have time to even touch the Dawson issue - equal to Pac in terms of chin?! You're having a laugh mate)

Does that one solitary incident really prove that Pacquiao, whose chin has held solid against MAB, Morales and Marquez, has only equal punch resistance to Hatton, who has been knocked onto ***** St by both Collazo and Lazcano, two vastly inferior fighters and punchers?? (Hatton only avoided going down as he knows how to hold, a count by a referee is a technicality, his reaction to the punches is the real proof of his chin, and whereas Collazo and Lazcano were not good enough fighters to capitalize, Floyd Mayweather was. PBF is not a great puncher at 147, and when he introduced Hatton to Mr Ringpost with a single shot, Hatton was gone - can you imagine anyone doing that to Pacquiao?? Me neither)

Your reasoning seems to be to me rather feeble, but fair enough then, it's your thread and your opinion.

 

I don't see what this clip proves about Pac's chin right now.

Fighters' punch resistance changes. Roy Jones Jr of 1994-97 would not have been knocked out by the punches Tarver and Johnson landed.

Right now, Pac has proved to have an excellent chin. Digging up examples of him being hurt from years ago when he was a different fighter are irrelevant compared to the evidence of him fighting great fighters and looking solid over the past few years.

 

hatton was hurt in thos fights but as i always say late on after a gruelling fight and shows what a warrior he is by not going down the mayweather one he basically headbutted that punch that would dropped pac aswell

 

iv never seen that it must of been a hard jab lol

 

It showed he is a warrior yes, but it also showed his chin is not strong. A guy with a strong chin would not have been hurt by Lazcano's shots that night. Pac would've blown them off his shoulders like flakes of dandruff.

The PBF punch is a matter of opinion. I do not think it would've finished Pac off the way it finished Ricky off.

 

Hatton's chin is only just better than questionable at world level. Collazo ain't a puncher and never has been. Hurt by Lazcano? Should not happen at all. He was in trouble, still reeling from that left hook when the ref took the convenient opportunity to tie Ricky's laces.

Knocked flat out by Mayweather too? Mayweather ain't done anything like that for years.

Not great. I give him the benefit of the doubt considering his style and propensity to walk onto shots, and also his impressive effort in taking Tszyu's shots, although I always felt Tszyu lost power without room to get leverage. Okay chin, but Pacquiao's is way better.

 

what so you think pac diving in off balance chin in the air and getting hit with a flush power shot in round 10 after taking way to manypower shots already would of walked through it

 

Ricky was competitive, got hit with that shot, and he was gone.

No, I do not think that one punch would have had the same impact on Pac.

Pac's chin is stronger IMO.

 

mayweather has got power its just he desides not to use it much when he gets pushed back and gets made to use it he shows he has real power like against corrales,gatti and hatton

 

your deffense of pac is unrelenting pac most probably does have the better chin but hatton does have a good chin as well you couldnt fight the way he does without we will see in may

 

Mayweather did show great power v Corrales... at superfeatherweight.

He looked powerful against Gatti... because Gatti did not know how to protect his skull from any of PBF's punches.

He looked powerful against Hatton... because Hatton does not have a strong chin.

But Mayweather is not a powerpuncher. Maybe he was a bit of a powerpuncher down at 130, but in no way was he a big hitter at 147.

 

My defence of Pac is unrelenting?? That's a strange way to look at it. My opinion of Pac is that he has an excellent chin, and I have heard nothing on this thread to make me consider changing that opinion. It's not a blind or irrational defence of him, I have stated my reasons repeatedly.

Hatton does have a good chin, I agree, but it is not a strong/excellent chin like I believe Pac's is, and I have stated my reasons for this too.

Let's wait and see who wobbles first on May 2, shall we?!

 

gatti and hatton were similar against mayweather they both didnt no how to protect there skull but hatton got through to round 10 gatti i think was round 5

 

Erm, aren't you a Hatton fan?! To suggest that Ricky's efforts against Mayweather were comparable to the horrible mismatch that was PBF v Gatti is very insulting to Hatton. Hatton didn't take anywhere near the same beating that Gatti did. Hatton was competitive in most rounds, and only really took punishment in rounds 8 and 10. Gatti was getting pummeled stupid from the first bell. Very strange comment from you mate!