Let's talk about Nova vs Baer brawls

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  1. Jamzy ⭐

    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member Full Member

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    Both were very poor, they couldn't and wouldn't live upto the standards of the 80's, 90's or the modern boxing era/s. Nova's technique wasn't ''decent'' he was a massive noob.
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's different!
     
  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    Care to explain it further?
     
  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    I watched through the first clip. It's a fun bout when then slug, but the technique is very crude.

    This isn't a Canzoneri Vs Chocolate style battle. Just a slugfest, and not near the best slugfest I've seen either.
     
  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    Baer is of course crude, but Nova is quite decent for a slugger.
     
  6. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love these fights. They were very winnable for Baer but at this point he just didnt have the same fire he once did.
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    Galento was around 250 lbs against Baer, so I don't think that Ruiz is 30+lbs heavier.

    I agree that Galento had worse technique, but we are talking about Ruiz being tank, technique is not part of that. Galento was as tough as possible and he was powerful man, probably harder (though worse overall) hitter than Ruiz.
     
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  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    Especially second one, when Baer scored KD but didn't have stamina to finish him.
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you think the Baer of the Schmeling fight would've beaten Nova?
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    He was 244 which was 10-20 pounds over his weight for his top performances, such as Nova before the Baer fight. Ruiz was 267 for Joshua making him 23 pounds heavier than for the Baer fight and 30+ more than Galento’s version of fit.

    Technique does matter. You aren’t a tank if you’re losing your balance after throwing punches. You’re a tank if Joshua drills you and you keep your feet planted and counter back.
     
  11. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    Probably, Nova was very good fighter but he didn't outclassed past prime Baer.
     
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  12. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    So Ruiz is perfectly fine with twice as much fat as Galento against Baer, but Tony at 244 is overweighed? I see double standards here.

    Ruiz got knocked down by Joshua, fortunately for him Joshua wasn't Louis and he was too sloppy to finish him and got countered. Galetno also came right at Louis eating tons of hard punches but Louis was simply too good - he would be too good for Ruiz too.
     
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales booted Full Member

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    I don’t enjoy them at all because of the extremely poor technical level at which they were fought. Brainless slugfests have never been my thing. But to each his own.
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Where did you get this 2x number from? Scale Ruiz down to 5’9 and wouldn’t be that heavy.

    Now when Galento caught Louis, fortunately for Louis, Galento wasn’t Ruiz and he was too sloppy to finish him off.
     
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  15. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So now we are seriously talking about Ruiz beating Louis!

    Strewth!
     
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