Lets talk Donovan Ruddock

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  1. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    How was Tommy-Ruddock premature?

    He had already gotten a standing eight and he was still not throwing a single shot except hugging while Tommy was punching him.
     
  2. heavy_hands

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    truth, floyd patterson told him the same thing
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Nope, he first came to big time notice for this...

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  4. heavy_hands

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    dokes was past his prime when he faced ruddock and anyway he never was a great thing, coetze knocked him out
     
  5. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    And so did Holyfield. But neither had Dokes looking for that soft spot on the canvas like Ruddock did. True heavyweight power Ruddock had. Run tings root boy!
     
  6. heavy_hands

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    and?¿ you need much more than power to be great or very good... shavers had great power and he looked pathetic against standers or quarry. ruddock was one of these guys "with puncher chance" nothing more. plus you are one of these guys who claim that morrison had a glass chin and you are saying that ruddock had great power... but he could not stop morrison...
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    Rudduck was past it against Morrison
     
  8. heavy_hands

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    nice and fast excuse, i doubt that at 32 a puncher lost his "great hitting power".and stylistically ruddock should not have great problems knocking him out, because morrison traded blows with him. simply morrison smashed him without any excuse
     
  9. Azzer85

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    Ruddock, the only man to get hit and knocked down by Tyson and get up smiling

    rumours are both holy and Bowe ducked him and foreman wanted nothing to do with him either
     
  10. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    just because a fighter hits hard, hes not allowed to age?

    especially after taking a 19 round beating from Mike Tyson?
     
  11. Ricky42791

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    After Tyson lost the title Ruddock was looked at as one of the most feared men in boxing. People thought he was going to be the next heavyweight champion of the world. Evander didn't want any part of Ruddock neither did bowe, tim withersoon no one did. I dont believe foreman ducked ruddock but i dont think it was a fight he was crazy to make happen Tyson the NO.1 Contender at the time stepped up to the plate and took on Ruddock the no.2 contender at the time, being hungry to get the belts back. First fight was great, but stopped early in my opinion Tyson would have finished him. I felt robbed of another Tyson highlight reel KO and there wouldn't be any need for a rematch. Rematch was great fight too. People say Tyson wasn't the same fighter and his skills had deteriorated which maybe true, however he was in tremendous condition, and hungry which is a dangerous Tyson. Neither man was the same after those two fights. It took a lot out of both of them Ruddock more so than Tyson. Tyson fights were his pinnacle IMO he actually was a good boxer too, but he just went smash crazy. One reason Tyson was able to handle him was because he new that the smash was coming everytime that was his weapon which made him very limited. Both of their chins were phenomenal in those fights as well, in the second fight Ruddock's jaw was broken as early as the fourth round and he finished the eight remaining rounds with a broken jaw against MIKE TYSON! He got up from the canvas well against Tyson even smiled, Tyson ate multiple smashes in a row that would ice most fighters like dokes and hardly blinked. God I love those fights. Lewis decimated him, which surprised me how easily he handled him. Tyson said that Ruddock could be champ of the world if he wanted to. He hits like ****in mule kick he said as well hahaha
     
  12. heavy_hands

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    magically mike tyson or his rivals were past their primes when they lost but when they faced tyson they were in perfect shape,tyson was god in 1988 against the lhw spinks ( perfect victim for tyson stilistically) but he was past his prime against douglas because he was not with rooney, then he was very good again when he did beat ruddock (he was not with rooney but he was very good again because he won the fight), then he destroyed bruno in 1996 but he lost against evander, then he was a shot again, holmes in 1988 was a complete shot, but the tyson fans are saying that he was very good at tihs time , but at 32 ruddock was finished against morrison :lol: mike tyson is the only fighter that ever had a "prime". prime tyson 86-88 the best ever, h2h, pfp, and ali 67 would get knocked out in seconds like michael spinks :deal
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    The Tommy Morrison fight shouldn't have any barring on Ruddock's rating as a fighter. By the time he met Morrison in the ring in June of 1995, he had fought one time in a two and a half year period against a journeyman. Its also reasonable to assume that after two beatings from Tyson and a bad loss to Lewis that he was never the same man again anyway.

    Ruddock's career left some things to be desired, but he wasn't at all a bad contender. While most of his best opponents were past their primes, a few of them were still servicable and better than the average Joe, and he dealt with them in a fashion that most other men at the time couldn't. His chin was not exactly George Chuvalo calibur, but any man who could survive the artillary of both Bonecrusher smith and Mike Tyson deserves the benefit of the doubt in the durability department. His punching power spoke for itself. His boxing skills were highly tauted early in his career, but seemed to diminish once he discovered that he could actually KO fighters. after dropping out of the ratings as an upper echelon contender, Razor finished out his career on a modest winning streak - in mostly local fights against mediocrities and retired as Canada's heavyweight champion.. All in all it wasn't a bad career by any means. But the hype during the early 90's got out of hand, and he was marketed as something that he wasn't..
     
  14. Seamus

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    Dokes was very talented and only 31 or so against Ruddock. Only a year before he had given Holyfield hell in one of the great heavyweight bouts of the 80's. He was still considered a viable commodity.

    Ruddock's destruction of Dokes after his KO of Bonecrusher Smith caught a lot of peoples' attention. It put him on the heavyweight map.
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    The Dokes win was still a valuable feat, no doubt, as Michael was still rated highly by the alpha organizations. But he showed up weighing 15 lbs heavier for the Ruddock fight, and apparently had resumed his cocaine habit as well. Still a good win, but the Dokes of that fight shouldn't be compared to the one of the Evander bout.