Lets try to calculate the true age of Ortiz

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  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Ortiz was born, according to data provided by him, on March 29, 1979 in Camaguey, Cuba. As an amateur boxer, he won a silver medal in the World Cup team in 2005, and was national champion of his country in the 91 kg, the following year.2010 passes professional and debuts in Hollywood but.... I had fun working out the following thesis about the true age of Luis Ortiz. Regarding the "voices" about the real age of the great, very great Luis Ortiz, from his extraordinary amateur path we can draw objective considerations. First of all, let's say that Deontay Wilder's amateur career is a dignified one but not comparable to that of Luis Ortiz: 361 matches of which 342 won and 19 defeats. As far as we know Ortiz was born on March 29, 1979, assuming that he started "officially" to fight at the age of 16, we assume that he passed as an amateur in 1995. From the data in our possession we know that Luis Ortiz left Cuban amateur boxing in 2008 to escape in 2009 to the United States of America where in 2010 he began his professional career so his amateur career lasts about 14 years from 1995 to 2009. According to the news, Luis Ortiz played 361 amateur matches, of which 342 won and 19 lost. Attention, these data are considered reliable by all the international press so there are no objections to these numbers to be raised and then we'll see why. Now, if his amateur career lasted 14 years, 361:14=25.78. Mathematics tells us that Ortiz would have carried out 25.78 fights per year, in fact 25.78 x 14 years = 360.92 fights. Since it is unthinkable and above all possible that a maximum weight can support 25 matches in a year equal to two matches every 12 months of the year, here is my thesis on the real age of Ortiz. According to my calculations Luis Ortiz was not born in 1979 but in 1970, his amateur career began at 16 years, that is in 1986 and ended in 2008 the year before he escaped to the United States and therefore his amateur career lasted 22 years from 1986 to 2008. Dividing the total number of meetings supported by amateur 361: 22 years = 16 meetings per year. Considering that Luis Ortiz was part of the Cuban National Boxing Team, the continuous national selections involved on average more matches in a single month and his participation in international tournaments are many and recurrent and often required more than one match per month. I find these observations and deductions objectively justified. For all the above reasons and the calculations I have made, I believe that today, 2019, Mr. Luis Ortiz is around 49 years old, having been born in 1970 and not in 1979 as indicated by many people with many reservations.
     
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  2. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    He defo looks closer to 50 than 40.

    But Who knows.
     
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  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    That man is one hundred thirty seven years old! Hundred thirty seven!! Sonny Liston was also ninety when he fought Clay. Jesus. Isn’t there enough b.s. in boxing without having to add in made up stuff. Ortiz is 40.
     
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  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By this “16 fights per year, started officially fighting at the age 16” calculation, Lomachenko must be 47 right now.

    There’s nothing extraordinary about Ortiz’ number of amateur fights.
     
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  5. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He laid out the math, man. Hard to argue against that.
     
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  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lay out the same math for GGG and he’d be 51 years old.
     
  7. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That would mean his pops had him at the age of 8. Or his father is 71 which is unlikely so your theory doesn’t hold water.
     
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  8. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which further shows the ridicuolusness of this “math”.
     
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  9. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’d mean his twin brother is 51 as well, shot and a miss again.

    I’m just playing along this dumb game of maths, kinda tired of “Ortiz was born year 219 before christ” type of stuff.
     
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  10. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, Ortiz is 49, Vasyl is 47 and Papa Lomachenko is also lying about his age is the correct answer. lol
     
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  11. PIPO23

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    Now comparing people of similar age visually. Let's pick a random name. BORENARD Hopkins.You can see the similar traits flabby, lose around the belly, tittays flopping around, old man syndrome look. Actually, Borenard Flopkins may not be the best comparison. Roid Jones Jr probably a better one.Pay attention to the tittays.

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    I estimate based on my evidence he is definitely in his 40's but not exactly where maybe 45.
     
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  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    My calculator is not big enough

    and carbon dating doesn't go that far back enough to date Ortiz

    lets just all be thankful he is still walking and giving back to the sport of boxing
     
  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Dont kid yourself... Wilder cant box for ****
     
  14. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i posted his age many times before on this board, he's currently 51 and rigondeaux is around 53.
     
  15. BCS8

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    What sort of radiocarbon dating was used?