leveling things out... ortiz downright loses

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Leonard, Jul 5, 2011.


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  1. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    here's the truth:

    ortiz is going to get beaten by floyd by a wide margin. it will not be competitive, ortiz does not have the tools and will get outboxed.

    floyd is not fighting pac after ortiz, floyd and pac are simply not fighting at any time.. period. stop putting your hopes on what floyd is saying as he is only saying things out to sell the fight. we know that we'll remain at the same standstill about the drug testing issue and even split issues after mayweather potshots ortiz to death.
     
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  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm glad you're here to let us all know what the truth is.
     
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  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I still believe you cant count him out, we dont know how the inactivity has hurt floyd and ortiz has very good power, floyd is an obvoious favourite but considering his age and inactivity would it be weird if he slowed down compared to the mosley fight and might need some rounds to get the rust off, also ortiz is southpaw, starts well early on and has power in both hands.
     
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  4. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the earlier you come grips with reality and how things are going down, the easier it will be for you
     
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  5. unloco

    unloco Boxing Addict banned

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    thats what i thought too , ......... until i saw the victor ortiz catwalk video , now i think victor wins by ud
     
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  6. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ya i think ortiz has the ability to make it interesting, at least for a little while . He's gotta really let it all hang out though, and not try to box with Floyd. I don't think the Pac - Floyd fight will ever happen either , but I'm thinking that maybe Floyd feels a little more confident now that Pac is slowing down a bit.
     
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  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Once again, thanks for your wisdom. This forum would be lost without you.
     
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  8. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    If they both win then I see no reason why it shouldnt happen, im on the fence though in picking a winner, will decide after both fights to see where they both are.
    People expect much from floyd though, they overlook that he is in his mid 30's and facing a young hungry strong guy, I think its a good fight, i hope ortiz doesnt respect floyd to much or loses his courage early.
     
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  9. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    my point is, this is floyd getting to the media/public because he has an upcoming fight. i feel confident that after floyd wins, we'll find ourselves in the same situation as to the pac fight as we are in now.. which practically means, there will be no fight.

    i just want you all to stop putting so much weight on floyd's statements that he'll fight pac next.
     
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  10. COOK'D

    COOK'D Member Full Member

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    Floyd and Pac will absolutely fight. No doubt about it. Way too much money involved. There's no way in hell that fight doesn't happen. Don't get me wrong, boxing does have a way of ruining a good thing so it's a definite possibility that fight comes off well past it's sell by date, but we'll see it.
     
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  11. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd's statement is if Pac takes them tests we fight. Hasn't changed since day one so are you saying you believe he will change it for some reason?
     
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  12. Knives7

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    I think Ortiz will lose too but I don't think we should count him out. He's young and a south paw. Mayweather is known to have trouble with south paw. It'll be a little competitive.
     
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  13. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty much agree.
     
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  14. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    Floyd will win before the bell has even rung, he will get in Victor's head
     
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  15. MetalLicker

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    Ortiz almost got outboxed by Peterson. I don't see how he can beat Floyd outside of a puncher's chance.

    Edit. Ortiz did get outboxed by Peterson. Ortiz's KD helped him get a draw.
     
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