Lewis career/legacy - one of the best ever

Yes!

 

A knockout punch is never lucky! But it was certainly a lucky break for Lewis when that major cut opened up under Vitali's eye. We were debating Holyfield and Lewis in their primes. With Vitali - Lennox, we were debating the fight! :good

 

If anything I would think the opposite is true. Since neither knew there would be a second fight, they probably fought the first fight the way they would have in their primes. In the second fight, Lewis may have fought differently, since he didn't get the outcome he should have. But that's pure speculation, what I think is obvious is that both fights should count in attempting to determine a h2h outcome in their primes.

 

Based on the 2nd without the spin, Lennox would have been trouble!atsch

 

Interestingly Holyfield Lewis 1 had a clause that if Lewis won he had to give an immediate rematch, if Holyfield won there would be no rematch. So the
2nd fight would have still happened even if the judges had scored Lewis the winner in the first.
Despite the 2nd fight being closer Lewis still won by a minimum of 3 rounds even if you try and give rounds to Holyfield. Holyfield brought back Kenny Weldon to work on his footwork and sharpen his technique to get closer and his strategy worked to a degree. Partly due to lessons learned from the first fight. Lewis was undoubtedly overconfidant and believu=ing that he could have steppe dit up and stopped him in the first fight so strayed from his succesful strategy of the first fight, 2 good fights in my opinion but 2 wins for Lewis no matter how much you love Holyfield.
Lewis knew the way to fight Holyfield back in 92, as he said on the commentary at ringside of Bowe Holyfield, you dont fight an inside fight as Bowe wrongly did. Lewis said he would have used his jab and staye don the outside. Would have been a great fight.

 

Whatever.

Heard it all before 20 years or more ago. The only difference was that it was pro-wrestling and Ali retiring that they were talking about.

Fans like you will disappear, but boxing will not. Of that I am 10000000% sure. :hi:

 

Funny too, we can asume the judges were wrong in the 1st fight and right in the 2nd fight! I got a feeling they were wrong in the 2nd fight to make up for the wrong in the 1st fight!

 

I agree, the first fight was a clear win for Lewis, I had 8 rounds to 4 for Lewis, the second fight had alot of close rounds that could of went either way, I thought neither man did enough to win and gave it a draw. I think all and all everything worked out, the fight was scored a draw and the other a win for Lewis.

 

:verysad

 

Oh, come on Drex, by that logic the only "one punch" KOs ever recorded would be in fights like Thunder-Grimsley, where - literally - only one punch was thrown and the fight was over!!!

As far as McCall and Rahman are concerned, they are ordinary fighters, nothing more. And it's not just that Lewis lost to them, it's HOW he lost - in a manner far more devastating and one-sided than ANY of the losses incurred by other top rated HWs like Holyfield, Foreman, Frazier, pretty much anybody you could name. As I have said, he is the ONLY top level HW champ to get taken out early twice when he held the title by fighters of this nature. It's unusual for a great fighter to have this happen to them once. Twice is unprecedented - and a VERY siginificant "black mark" on his career.

 

Again, why base it on one fight when they fought twice..unless of course you're trying to promote a particular agenda..:yep

 

You can really only assume that if you never watched the two fights. We've been over this time and time again, and every poll and every thread has Lewis winning the second fight by the majority of posters. I've seen the fight numerous times and I scored it 8-4 for Lewis, although an argument can be make for 7-5, but at 7-5 that gives Holyfield everyone of the close rounds..so there ain't any more rounds to give him. 8-4 splits the close rounds a little bit more evenly. The first fight wasn't even competitive..why not mention that once in a while?

 

good resume but.....he fought past prime fighters.....mike weaver was 38 yrs old.....tyrell biggs was shot.....razor ruddock was brutalized by tyson so he was shot by the time lennox fought him.....bruno was 34 yrs of age.....tony tucker was 34 yrs of age.....lionel butler was fat........golota was scared.....holy was 37 and fighting in spurts......tyson was 35 and fat........mercer was 36 yrs old and 236 lbs.........mccall crackhead......HE SDIDNT FIGHT THE BIGNAMES IN THIER PRIMES

 

I would actually like to see the 2nd fight once more, I based my conclusions on seeing it at the time.

 

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