Lewis career/legacy - one of the best ever

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  1. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not only that, Douglas totally dominated Tyson from round 1.

    Lewis was no way dominated by Rahman/Mccall until the last punch in the fight landed.
     
  2. Drexl

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    Which is why he was only KD twice in his entire career... a career in which he fought some of the biggest hitters of his generation? :blood
     
  3. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You know that nine minute video of Lennox getting hit flush on the chin which people post to prove that Lennox had a great chin? It works the other way also and demonstrates that he could be hit, and by much lesser fighters than a prime Mike Tyson. If you deny this, we have nothing more to discuss.
     
  4. Marnoff

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    Yes, dominance does count. Ali going the distance with people doesn't mean he wasn't dominant. Also, you don't count Sonny Liston has a great fighter?

    The Foreman that Ali dominated in Foreman's prime won the title in Lennox's division while in his forties. Let that help as a measuring stick.
     
  5. Marnoff

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    Foreman's is also extremely impressive, very similar to Ali and including Ali himself. Then factor in his comeback and... wow.
     
  6. Drexl

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    Ali dominated Foreman?

    Or did he absorb shots for 99% of the fight before unleashing one flurry on a "punched-out" George?

    I suggest you watch the fight again.... :deal


    Also take a look at Foremans performances in his 40's, other than the last 30 seconds against Moorer.... :deal
     
  7. Marnoff

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    Whether he was knocked down or not is irrelevant to my point. He was very accessible to big shots and a prime Tyson would have found the market many times.
     
  8. Marnoff

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    I was using the same word that he used, but sure. Ali had a set strategy and carried it out before winning.

    He wasn't just absorbing punishment, either. He was landing sharp counters throughout.
     
  9. Drexl

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    Ok, he wasn't just absorbing shots.

    But "dominate"???
    Nope. In no way, shape or form.
     
  10. jc

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    Lennox should easily break into everybodys top 10 heavyweights without doubt.

    He beat everyone worth beating, unified and became undisputed, beat every man he has ever faced and retired as top dog. Great record.
     
  11. PATSYS

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    No, Foreman only notable win was over 1 great fighter (Frazier) other than that there is almost nobody. Foreman defended his title by a staggering 2X then retired. Then returned in his 40s, fought 20 straight tomato cans (jacking up his KO%), lost to all good fighters he fought in the 90s except against galss chinned Moorer (who was shooling him until he landed a good punch).

    Foreman's competition is not even close to that of Ali/Lewis/Holyfield.
     
  12. Drexl

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    If your point is that his "chin" might let him down, then it is 100% relevant to your point.

    He relaxed and opened up against lesser fighters, leading to him getting hit more. He stayed focused and defensive against the more dangerous opponents.

    He would have beaten any version of Tyson IMO. The only difference would be whether it was by stoppage or on points.
     
  13. Marnoff

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    Sure, then let me take that back. I used "dominate" because the person I was replying to used it. That's not how I view the fight at all.
     
  14. Marnoff

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    Alright, so it's not impressive what he did in his comeback? A championship fight goes twelve rounds, so regardless of how Moorer was doing in the fight, Foreman knocked him out. Foreman got robbed against Shannon Briggs, and gave Holyfield a good fight. His record is impressive.
     
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