Lewis career/legacy - one of the best ever

MasterCalzaghe owned again. I might start a tally.

 

All Calzaghe fans are easy meat when it comes to ownages, they just talk bollocks :yep

 

One of the best examples of testicular chatter was when TFFP cited Mario Veit as an example of a top fighter Joe had fought.

 

Rahman & McCall both were top-10 HW's for years after they lost rematches with Lennox. Both defended their world titles more times than Vitali Klitschko did, and he's God according to most people on this board.

Losing to Holyfield (which he didn't :deal) is "laughable"???

You're ******ed, clearly. :-(

 

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Well of course Veit was a great fighter, he was unbeaten when Joe fought him - he must have been great, right? atsch

 

Mother****er I dont need to watch the tape you british ****** I saw the fight live dickface. I was rooting for Lewis, but quite obviously he was losing the fight when it was stopped. And then he retires with his biggest wins being over out of primes holyfield and Tyson, he gets credit for claiming the title 3 times, but he beat ****ing Rahman to do it lol. Rahman a top 10 heavyweight. And dumbass? Does that mean Rahman was good? Maybe. Was he great no. Norton fought in the best era ever for heavyweights. So did Frazier, Ali and Foreman. He went the beat and or went the distance with Ali and Spinks in fights many thought he won.

Tunney defeated Jack Dempsey twice dick lips. Only one defeat in 80 something pro fights, that doesnt make you top 10 lol? And getting knocked the **** out by Rahman does?

Listen dont question my boxing knolwedge moron, im not gonna start hyping Lewis because he was only your countries second heavyweight champion in 100 years. **** that. If he would have beat Vitali convincingly in a rematch he might have made my top 10, but he punked out and too me he goes out with a loss and his only great victories being over past their prime boxers.

 

Sadly Lewis did wait till the top heavies were done, and Rahman was always class c with a lucky punch. He fought Tua like a lion tamer that was afraid of being bitten, and clearly Vitali had the edge in the fight. The rematch might have proved the point, but Lennox couldn't be sure to be so lucky that Vitali would cut again.He was awarded the 2nd fight with Holyfield because of the bull**** in the 1st one ANd when Holy was past it anyway. KOed twice with c rated fighters...........top ten? Forget it!! Not a chance!!

 

Lennox was over the hill against Vitali and behind slightly at the time of stoppage but exactly when it was stopped Vitali was noticably looking more and more raggeddy and ready to get over ran by Lewis, he was beginning to slow down drastically and in 3 more rounds Lennox would have started pulling away from him, Lennox on his finest day would probably dropped Vitali early and hammered him before Klit could gather his composure.. You can't ever question Lewis's opposition because he made it very clear that he was prepared to face everyone and anyone put in that opposite corner no questions asked.. God bless..

 

While I agree that he was lucky against Vitali, I belive that H2H Vitali was an absolute monster and had a good chance to beat most guys on your list. You can easily find argument against every fighter on your list.

Louis? Was beaten by an average 200 pound Schmeling who wouldn't even be cruiserweight champ today.
Ali? Won the title from a guy who just quit on his stool, admitted he got a gift against Norton, which makes him 1 out of 3 against Norton, had many boring fights with endless holding.
Holmes? Weak opposition.
Marciano? Very weak opposition.
Frazier? Lost four out of five against the two best of his era, very short prime.
Foreman? Basket case, should have ruled the 70's, mentally to weak to recover from his loss to Ali.

etc., etc.

Every great fighter in history had some sub par performances, some weaknesses. Lewis' balance of stregths and weaknesses looks pretty damn good to me.

 

Temper, temper.

So.... Holy and Tyson were shot when Lennox fought them, but Dempsey was prime whenhe fought Tunney? Is that what you are saying? How many fights did Tunney have at HW? Answer the question. Tunney is an all-time great P4P. But NOT at HW.

Lennox was behind by one clear round, with half the fight to go, and won the last round on all three cards. Surely in your extensive history in boxing you would have seen hundreds of fighter come back from a worse position than that... :think

Besides, someone with vast boxing knowledge like you would surely know that the scorecards are irrelevant if a fight is stopped. :think


I don't need to question your boxing "knowledge". It's there for everyone to see.



Oh, and I'm not British. :finger

 

This is laughable. It's one thing to hate Lewis, but bring a little reality into the discussion.

Patterson, Tunney and Norton aren't even close to the fighters Lewis was in terms of heavyweights.

Tunney was a LHW for christ sakes who managed to beat an inactive and over the hill Dempsey twice) but ATG heavyweight, not a chance.

Patterson never had the chin to be ranked higher than Lewis, who's biggest knock was that he was chinny. Well compared to Patterson he wasn't.

I'm not even going to bother with Norton.

As far as the V.K. fight goes clearing V.K. lost on more than just a lucky punch. If you saw the fight you'd know he had at least 3 horrific cuts, one above the eye, one below and his lip was cut to ****. His vision was impaired and he was swallowing a lot of blood. Not that the scorecards matter in this situation, but VK also lost the 6th round on all the cards. So this was far from a lucky win. Hell all one has to do is look at the two after the fight to see who won.

And assuming you're a fan of VK, then by default Lewis deserves props for beating a very tough fighter. In fact I can't really think of any other heavyweight in history, with the possible exception of Foreman that could have beaten VK at the age of 38. I'd be interested to see anyone's list who might disagree with that comment.

As far as the other fighters go, they're at least in the mix, which is more than I can say about those three, but Lewis certainly isn't on the bottom of that list by any means.

 

So using your logic Ali won the title 3 times but it's tarnished cos he beat Spinks to do it (lol, I think you said?)

Also using your logic Ali punked out of a rematch with Foreman.

Get real - Lewis will be remembered by those who know the sport as an all time great, a top 10 heavyweight for sure, maybe even top 5.