Lewis Klitschko post fight press conference just uploaded

Lol, I see your point.

 

Imagine if cut victories were universally recognised as a technical decision a la Wlad's technical decision win over Williamson. TD6 sounds far less impressive than TKO6. A "knock out" implies that someone has been knocked senseless or is unable to continue fighting effectively, which was not the case in this fight. Vitali was stopped by an official's decision against his will while 4-2 ahead, which is highly subjective as the A-side fighter may well be allowed to continue with an equally bad or worse injury. Therein lies the controversy, combined with Lewis reneging on his post-fight agreement to rematch Vitali, which would have been extremely lucrative, cleared things up and boosted Lewis's legacy further had he won.

Vianello-Rice was a good recent case study of the cut rules:

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/jonnie-rice-upsets-twice.697817/#post-22117821

 

Nah. Lewis's legacy is top 5 ATG HW, that's some accolade.

That position is cemented with TK06 in his last fight against Vitali Klitschko. When Lewis turned Vitali's face into pulled pork.

 

I can't believe how many people are saying Lewis was scared, it's like a mantra they keep repeating it over and over again. How on Earth do they know what was going on in Lewis's head? That's all guess work, it has nothing to do with reality.

The reality is Lewis faced far more dangerous punchers than Vitali & he faced plenty of them. He rematched both opponents that knocked him out and took care of them with no fear, period. How can people keep saying he was scared of VK? It's completely biased.

 

Lewis TKO6

 

Since we all know what was going on in Lewis's head, how about maybe he looked at Vitali's eye and said to himself man, I got to get out of this business that is horrible what if that happens to me in my next fight? Maybe that is what was going on in his head.

 

Lewis was scared... Of his wife. She threatened to leave him if he wouldn't retire.

 

Medical intervention is game over just the same as the ref stepping between 2 fighters on their feet to declare the fight over. The damage is considered done. We don't devalue a guy being stopped on his feet the same way you're attempting to do for this discussion. Sure we can argue semantics all day about whether or not a guy was ahead or had momentum prior to a fight changing punch, but at the end of the day these punches are how fights are won. Lennox ended that fight.

**edit and honestly I can't believe you've got me here defending Lennox freaking Lewis lol.

 

Lewis was scared of losing. Come on, man. Who the hell retires after a fight like that? It was the most obvious rematch.

It's ok, he's still an ATG.

 

I am trying to deal with just the facts. I am not Lewis's therapist and I do not know what is inside his head. And you also do not know. Perhaps Lenox had to fight down a fire in his belly to rematch Vitali.

I could understand being disappointed if a prime Lennox refused him a rematch and retired, that would be a different story. But he was old and fat and ready for retirement.

 

Klitschko was never the same after that Lewis fight. Thankfully it was stopped when it was when looking back. It could have been so much worse.

 

Absolutely. If it had gone on longer who knows what would have happened? I've been watching boxing for 50 years, and that is among the worst cuts that I've seen.