Lewis/Klitschkos dominate because of their size?

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  1. Zapper1608

    Zapper1608 Member Full Member

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    People say or used to say that the Klitschkos/Lewis beat people because of a size advantage. But seeing guys like Wach, Helenius and Dimitrenko having a very hard time at top level, and seeing how Wilder avoids top opposition. Do people still think, they just dominate because if their size?
     
  2. JeanPaulValley

    JeanPaulValley Boxing Addict banned

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    Lewis dominated because he fought drug addicts,old fighters or old drug addicts.

    Klitschko bros dominated a weak division.

    Size is barely a factor. Lewis was smashed by 2 guys who were 6'2 and Vitali lost to the 6'1 217 pound Byrd.

    Wlad was smashed by the 6'1 Brewster and the 6'2 Purritty.
     
  3. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    On average the naturally heavier guys do better.
    Louis/Tyson in his prime (when he was most dominant)/Holmes/Ali/frazier/foreman/Lewis all outweighted most of their opposition.

    Sometimes you get guys who can do without the physical advantages but those are pretty rare.
     
  4. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Size is a reason why they dominated

    They made the most of their physical attributes and used them to their advantage ... Tyson's height may have been seen as a detriment to many but since he was lower to the ground he was a harder target to hit, due to his style
     
  5. Zapper1608

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    I think the size advantage is exaggerated, especially with Lewis who fought Mercer and Holyfield(2nd Fight) on the smaller guys terms and beat them. Vitali showed some mid range boxing against Chisora.
     
  6. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's not the size, it's what you do with it
     
  7. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Size alone doesn't mean much. But when you combine it with skills and coordination it's a great advantage. Lewis and Klitschkos (and arguably Bowe) are the only guys in the history of the sport that match giants like Primo Carnera in size and smaller champs in skills and coordination. It's very unusual to see such big men move like that.

    Add motivation, discipline, work ethics and you have the 3 great "super HW" champs.
     
  8. dyna

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    Golota was very good too, but his mind was a bit too weak to be a champion.

    He beat Bowe 2 times and even if Bowe was a bit faded he was still on top of the crop and Golota handed his balls 2 times in a row.
     
  9. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Size does count, otherwise of course we would not have weight divisions.

    But there is always a tradeoff...huge guys gas more quickly, and are less quick and less agile. I think we'd see this even more if there were still 15 round fights. They have to fight at a more measured pace. On the other hand, they tend to be stronger and their weight advantage counts up in close. The little guy has to do more to keep up.

    Very few fighters have dominated purely because of size though....it's always a combination of factors.
     
  10. PivotPunch

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    Size helps them but it's just part of the game, the same with power, speed, chin,.. The same people say there needs to be a SHW division (yeah another division is exactly what boxing needs.....) but it's just not true there are very few fighters who have size AND skills
     
  11. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought about Golota as well. But he was 6'4 for and I set the borderline for being "really" big at 6'5... But yeah, he had great coordination and skillset for a man his size, when he wasn't tensed as **** or freaked out, that is.
     
  12. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Valuev and Carnera aren't the very best examples though.
    They are sufferers of gigantism which gives even bigger trade offs than just being big.
     
  13. dyna

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    Skill is rare everywhere no matter the size.
     
  14. damian38

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    more to the fact that they established exellent jabs, which helped them control most of their opponents, but their size and reach was also a factor
     
  15. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Lewis was quite a modest sized heavyweight really. Slightly under 6ft 5, which wasn't too big, compared to most giants. He knew how to use his size, but he didn't always win just because of it. Then on the other scale you have guys like Fury, Wach, and Helenius that are even bigger, all over 6ft 6. Those kind of guys are getting by size alone, athletically and talent wise, their ****.