Lewis or Wlad. Who belongs higher in the ATG standings?

What's your point? Last time I went to Boxrec it seems that Lewis was giving the W for all these fights. So he beat a past prime Tyson, the same Tyson who paid him 4M as step aside money with a promise to fight him after that and reneged.

If Golota was drugged that his problem but why then didn't is show up when he was tested after the fight?

Oh he beat Vitali, I saw it with my own two eyes, which thankfully Vitali still has because of the doctor's order to stop the fight. 60 stitches later, Vitali was good as new, and the "I got hit by a mack truck" look he had at the end of the fight, slowly disappeared.

Well I don't recall Tyson bombing out Ruddock nearly as quickly as Lewis did, guess Lewis just punches harder.

And how Morrison chooses to train for his fights is his problem, not Lewis's.

 

Lennox still but Wladimir has closed the gap well in the past 2 years with Povetkin and Pulev scalps which are two of his six or seven best in his career.

 

That's a pretty balanced assessment but Wlad, at least in my opinion, is going to need wins against quality opponents, which is something he currently lacks. He could keep beating this level of comp all he wants but in my mind he really doesn't move up much if that's how things unfold.

 

Well that all depende.

If he racks up another another 8 to 10 victories over top ten competition over the next three or four years, that would leave him as having been dominant for some12 years and having been the linear champ approximately nine of those years.

This would prompt us to at least consider the possibility that the reason his opponents seemed to constitute a weak era, was that Wlad was so much above the whole lot.

And this could give future historians grounds to move him up the list a bit.

 

Wlad will never rank higher than Lennox. Wlad had his chance.

 

Wlad didn't rematch two men who knocked him out!

 

Wlad was never Knocked out.

Jast saying.

 

Wlad is already infront ot Lewis. Soon he will be the second greates of all time !!!
Want it or not, believe or not, dosn`t matter !!!
And yeah when someone who is not a british or american, then the era is weak, no matter we are in the era of 250-260 pounds heavy guys with perfect training and tactic, not like old dogs without tactic and 40-50 pounds lighter ...
Now just 1 shot is enough to end the fight, and guess what almost 10 years when Klitschko was last time on the floor ....
He is the second on the all-time list for most heavyweight title fights with 26, only Louis is with 27, but that record will be crushed soon.
Also he is the second longest reigning Heavyweight Champion of all time and its 3rd with most successful consecutive defences.
Like it or not he is top 5 material, like it or not, he get the belt that is missing from his collection and he become top 3, like it or not, he break Louis record and he is top 2 !!!!

 

Agree.

But I would say Haye, Byrd and Povetkin are all better wins than Ruddock, Golota and shot Tyson.

Holyfield is Lewis's standout win.

 

He was training Lewis when he said that Holyfield beat him. Lewis didn't take it too well :hi:

 

wlad will soon be a top 20 atg if he makes some decent defences instead of 40something-outgasser disinterested pulev.

 

The top 10 is the top 10. That won't ever change.

Wlad may hover around there for a while , but the division will keep moving after he's retired and other guys may come along and make his reign look worse than it already is.

He really is leaving nothing behind to be remembered except a long line of uninspiring and un-watchable title defences.

Sven Ottke did exactly the same and nobody remembers him now.

 

however if wlad continues to fight nobodies then he will be never be an atg, just a great excersize in marketing.

 

Lewis would have sliced Wlad's easy to cut skin up. Would not last 2 rounds against even an old Lewis. You see what Lewis did to Vitali and Vitali is better than WLad the egg

 

What the phuck does this mean ???

In my lifetime, the top ten has changed significantly by adding Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson and Lewis.

That's the majority of the list !


Not everybody agrees that all of the aforementioned merit being included in a top ten list, but MOST boxing observers would agree that MOST of them belong.

The list is in a constant state of change.