Lewis (prime) vs. Bowe (prime)... Honestly!

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  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Bowe was way better than Vitali..... simply way better.

    There's no department in which Vitali is superior to Bowe.

    It's a lazy assumption to say that Riddick was just some 6'5'' slugger who was able to out-man Holyfield then ran away from Lewis like a ***** only to be banged up twice by Golota.

    Bowe was a lazy bum in all honesty, but a ****ing good one. He had the full armoury of punches, a rock solid chin and lots of courage.

    If Bowe wouldn't quit when being hit by a thousand power shots from Golota he wouldn't take the easy way out against Byrd. Bowe would have wasted Byrd in three rounds.

    I'm a big Lewis fan, but I think he'd most certainly have his hands full with a 1992 Bowe. If they'd fought then he'd have been laid out, likewise if they'd fought in 1996 Lewis would have twatted Bowe.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Harder to hit on the outside perhaps?
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I never made that lazy assumption.

    Yes bowe was very good.

    We'll never know if bowe would have beat byrd but we can speculate and I think bowe would have beaten him.

    Yes again I agree that in 92 lewis loses in 96 lewis wins.

    So basically I agree with your whole post other than your first sentence.
     
  4. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Good post and I agree with everything except the last sentence of course. :p
     
  5. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Have you ever seen that fight? It was somewhat even with the stoppage being a bit premature. Bowe was beaten worse by Jorge Luis Gonzalez in the olympics and you saw what he did to him in the pros.
     
  6. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Dont put words in my mouth. I said:
    We all know your position Vanboxing, but I disagree. :good
     
  7. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Most of them. Especially the ones where he brought the fight to the inside and tore his opponent up. I know thats how a fight would go with Bowe and Lewis. It wouldnt be an outside chess match, and Lewis was not as comfortable on the inside against a capable inside fighter. Thats why held so much. He was beaten on the inside by Mercer and held on for life against Holyfield. Holyfield was a perfect example of how good Bowe could be on the inside, because Holy had the advantage and was a sharp puncher.

    Look how Lewis telegraphed his uppercut and threw it from the floor. A fighter like Bowe used threw short compact hooks and uppercuts on the inside and he would be able to telegraph all that crap that Lewis did to guys like Mike Grant.
     
  8. Jear

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    Prime v Prime Ill take Lewis. Lennox was extremely dominant against tall fighters (Rahman I included, he was in total control until he clowned, I dont include VK as Lewis was well past his very best) Grant, Golota, Rahman, Briggs, Morrison. Bowe looked great against Gonzalez but I think he was a level below Lewis bigman competition.
    I suspect Bowe will try to take the fight inside but I believe Lennox is able to keep that from happening with his jab and uppercuts and at his best tied up well inside.

    I still believe had they fought after Riddick took the title from Holyfield, that Bowe wins.
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    Most of them? You can't even be reasonable can you?

    Have a good evening sir.
     
  10. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He was dominant against tall fighters? You must of missed the Bruno, Klitschko, Mcall and Mercer fights? :huh
     
  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Did you see any of Bowes fights? Why do I have to list them? Guy was undefeated for the most part. No need to list them.
    a prime Holyfield being the main one
    Dokes
    Donald
    Gonzalez
    Thomas
    Tubbs (only an idiot would score it a draw or a win for Tubbs)
    Biggs
    Seldon Cooper etc. Bowe faced and beat a wide variety of styles contrary to what PP thinks. He face a more diverse style set than Lewis ever did.
     
  12. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis wasnt prime v Bruno, Klitschko or McCall I. Mercer is not exactly a tall fighter
     
  13. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So why does he get a pass? Bowe doesnt for being shot against Golota yet he remained for the most part undefeated his entire career and people refer to Golota as being the main reason they think Lewis would beat him?
     
  14. Jear

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    I didnt mention his fights with Golota at all. Riddick didnt look great against Holy the third time. I wonder how much the politics of boxing was weighing on him at the time. Most boxing writers at the time considered him the best heavy in the world after that fight but he was frozen out of the title picture.
    Prime Bowe didnt fight Golota or even Evander the third time, likewise Bruno, VK and McCall didnt face the best Lewis.

    92-95 Bowe v 97-00 Lewis Ill take Lennox
     
  15. Seamus

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    Dokes was literally wobbling when he entered the ring after a training table of donuts and crack. It was one of the most pathetic sights I have ever witnessed in a championship ring.

    Gonzalez was exposed as a no-hoper who didn't like to train. He was a complete non-entity and the product of a hype campaign. Bruce Seldom was the Official Heavyweight Champ of Atlantic City, and that was about it. Fat-ass Tubbs made a very competitive fight out of it with Bowe. I scored it 1 point for Bowe. A good test for the youngster but close. Biggs had lost 3 of his last 7 and was battling alcohol and drug problems as well.

    Bowe's resume consists of Holyfield and then a huge drop-off to c-raters, with Coetzer maybe being the next best fighter. And in that fight, Coetzer refused to fold so Bowe resorted to low blowing, the ref allowing it so that everything would follow script.