Lewis-Rahman 1

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  1. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    26 clinches in 12 rounds.
    With only about 4 of them being proper (wait for ref to seperate you) clinches, the rest all quick positional switches.
     
    DamonD, Feb 5, 2008
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  2. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My answer is
    Dempsey/Tunney I
    Baer/Braddock
    Louis/Schmelling I
    Liston/Clay I
    Frazier/Ali I
    Frazier/Foreman I
    Ali/Spinks I
    Ali/Norton I
    Ali/Young
    Holmes/Spinks I
    Tyson/Douglas

    but hold Lewis to account by all means which you should.
     
    punchy, Feb 5, 2008
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  3. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    Hey, I was kidding. But I bet you're glad I gave you the chance to tell me all that !
    Your post "I hope he doesn't say the Tua fight" amused me because it came after I'd already answered the question.
    I never said Lewis was a "jab and grab" man, I said I had expected him to attempt those tactics in the Rahman rematch. I was wrong, and pleasantly surprised, and impressed by Lewis's approach.
     
    Sonny's jab, Feb 5, 2008
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  4. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    Some of these comparisons are way off, IMO.
    I dont think it's correct to compare Ali losing to Frazier or even Dempsey losing to Tunney to Lewis-Rahman 1. Frazier and Tunney were great fighters fighting great fights. Ali looked like a great fighter in defeat, against Frazier.

    Frazier got up six times against Foreman. Sure, he was badly beaten, but by a bigger stronger man. Foreman was better than Rahman.

    Some of your other comparisons are nearer to the mark though.
    We should hold all these guys to account. I agree with that.
    :good
     
    Sonny's jab, Feb 5, 2008
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  5. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was actually coming back here to say "thanks for biting" but you beat me to it, heh...

    It was about 2 years back when I did it, during the aftermath of the Wlad-Peter fight...someone annoyed at the accusation that Wladimir clinched a lot there and said Lewis did the same against Tua.
     
    DamonD, Feb 5, 2008
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  6. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    I think the Tua fight was one of his best performances, up there with Holyfield 1 and Rahman 2.

    It was a bit frustrating at the time, towards the end, it certainly lacked drama. But really Tua was the disappointment. Lewis boxed well against the man in front of him, barely put a foot wrong.
    Lewis was really starting to impress me around this time, then next fight this Rahman thing happens.
     
    Sonny's jab, Feb 5, 2008
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  7. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tua in the 230s or better 220s would've made for a better effort.

    But then, even that version of Tua was capable of getting outboxed for long periods of time...Izon, Maskaev, Ibeabuchi, Wooden, Rahman, Nicholson, Oquendo, Byrd...

    When you consider the chin, power and hand speed Tua possesses, that he's never held a title belt (and even worse has only had 1 shot at one) in his career is a tremendous disappointment, certainly to me.

    Just a little more hustle and he might've been the guy fighting Holyfield for the vacant IBF strap in 2002, not Byrd. But a consistant jab, and good movement, is his kryptonite.
     
    DamonD, Feb 5, 2008
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  8. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lewis was cocky, got KO'd.
     
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  9. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I love the Tua fight, here it is.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq9lBt-pKJ8
     
    barneyrub, Feb 5, 2008
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  10. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always remember Lewis, sitting on his stool between rounds 11 and 12 with Manny and co saying how it was all such a breeze for him, going "It ain't over. It ain't over."
    Wish he had that same focus against Rahman in South Africa!

    Also, Lewis looking at the camera and going "Science again! Science!" when the fight finished.

    We need a Lewis-Tua topic... :p
     
    DamonD, Feb 6, 2008
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