Lewis used the same tactics as Wlad

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  1. Tyson379

    Tyson379 Active Member Full Member

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    Constant leaning down on his opponents, holding, etc. and nobody called out his performances.

    The fact is to be a successful tall fighter where you're naturally at a disadvantage because of your lack of mobility, you need to use different tactics. The fact is that everyone thinks being smaller is harder but being smaller has its pros and cons just like being tall is.

    The fact is that their only have been 3 amazing tall fighters, and the rest have been nobodies. If you look at the HW division in the past its a testament to the fact that smaller guys have always dominated and besides the big 3 names you got nobody else. Fury, the next great tall fighter, was being schooled by a former Cruiserweight.

    Your height isn't your advantage, it's how you utilize your positive traits that come with your size.
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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  4. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats Emanuel Steward for you...
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    lewis used them when he was in trouble.

    wlad using them all the way through a fight, coupled with running away from the comparative midget he was facing.
     
  6. articuno

    articuno Active Member Full Member

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    during tko6

    the uppercut and hug was perfect
     
  7. GoodOldBoy

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    Nobody called out his performances???????

    Saying that is almost too dumb...... ok I get it you just started following boxing a year ago and so you simply do not know.... but since you don't know you shouldn't be making that claim. People complained alot about his style of fighting.

    I was always a LL fan and I was even somewhat of a Klitschko fan back in the day but the fact of the matter is that LL was a bad mother****er while those Klitschko guys are just little silly bitches. That is the truth of the matter and no amount of bitching and crying is ever going to change it.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    While Lewis did clinch and push down on smaller opponents he never did it half as much as Wlad. Lewis had better footwork and controlled range better so he never needed to clinch as much, he also knew how to fight relatively well on the inside for a big man, unlike Wlad who has no inside game whatsoever.

    Just watch Lewi/Tua one of Lewis most passive performances. I just watched the first 3 rounds. Lewis clinched a total of 13 times in 3 rounds, he went entire minutes without having to clinch.

    It's amazing that Lewis himself was often criticised for being too passive and lacking in killer instinct yet after a decade of Wlad's performances he is now being called a bad ass with killer instinct on this forum.
     
  9. dinovelvet

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    Valuev's wife thinks Wlad should of been DQ'q and kicked out of boxing.
     
  10. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Lewis does clinch/lean his opponents but anybody that is a true real boxing fans knows lewis doesn't do that for every damn rounds and every minutes of every rounds like wlad does. <<It's laughable and ******ed by the ******ed wlad fans to say dumb stuff like this. Nobody in the heavyweight divisions clinchs way too much like wlad does. And lewis been in way more great fights that aren't boring while I cant remember the last time wlad been in atleast a very good fight.
     
  11. Ipay4leavingNot

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    Lewis had other skills like punching. Lewis was not allowed to clinch in the Tyson fight which was his biggest fight. Lewis often clinched and leaned on bigger men but it didn't matter he was leaning on guys he was beating up and had no chance of winning who were often not even throwing punches but trying to clinch him. Klitschko uses klicnhcing as a strategy from round 1 against guys who are hitting him with shots because he doesn't want to fight. He wins rounds but he doesn't win the fight. Lennox would beat up a guy for 4-5 rounds then lean on him. Klitschko just jabs and leans and nothing else. He isn't winning the fight because he isn't fighting he is just winning the round.
     
  12. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Basically this^.

    Manny Stewart worked out a tactical approach for his oversized boxers which would near enough guarantee they won (depending upon having decent skills and fitness in the first place).

    What happened in the Povetkin fight was essentially that this reached is apogee. Sasha had no way of winning without getting inside, but no way of getting inside without going under the jab. To give him his dues, he never stopped trying and musta worked on that rush-in for months.

    I've said it half a dozen times already - it's ugly as sin, but if a fighter cannot defend himself without throwing a dngerous (ie potentially illegal punch, he always has the right to clinch (defend yourself at all times).

    Prior to Stewart getting hold of Lennox and then Wlad, HW fighting was always gonna be essentially a lottery. You get guys that big slinging punches at each other it can just be about who lands first. Yeah some are naturally quicker, stronger or more gifted, but anyone could get caught.

    Manny figured out how to take the chance outta the equation - and sadly, it's boring.
     
  13. willcross

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    Lewis used totally different tactics! He was a master at pulling a guys head down, holding it there and drilling him with an uppercut!
     
  14. Cormega

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    :deal
     
  15. HitBattousai

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    This is a good summary. What it boils down to is Lennox clinched some, but typically only if he was in actual trouble or to impose his size while also fighting on the inside with his short uppercuts. He also fought far more dangerous opponents in his career, including Wlad's brother. Wlad clinches specifically to avoid even the possibility of engaging and does so against opponents he could probably stop within four rounds if he put a little more work into punching instead of clinching.