Lewis v Jeffries?

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  1. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    My friend being motivated is a mental factor not physical.it has nothing to do with being in his peak weight or not.anyway vs ruddock he looked even better
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Boxing is not just physical.

    He looked good against Ruddock. Not any better than Rahman though.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I would ask you to take Mendoza's posts with a large modicum of sodium chloride ,he is Jeffries number one fan boy.
     
  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Jeffries in 1904 is a live dog like Rahman or McCall were.
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

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    :lol:
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

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    Great question. Many people think of Jeffires as this older mostly out of condition fighter who was beat up by Jack Johnson but really don't realize that in his prime was fast for a big man of that era at about 6'2 1/2 and 225 lbs with a great left hook. He also had incredible stamina and could probably take a punch as well as Chuvalo could. Lennox Lewis is the bigger man at 6'5" and weights about 235 or so. So there isn't as big of a size difference as people think and Jeffires just may be the physically stronger man of the two fighters. I believe that Lewis is still faster and the more advanced boxer but Jeffries knew how to turn a fight into a brawl and not a shabby boxer himself.though not as technically sound as Lewis. Lewis would win most of the early rounds but the Boilermaker would start asserting his authority by round 8 and start landing brutal body punches along with some head shots slowing Lewis down. Lennox would see the final bell but would lose the decision in my opinion.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

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    Or, you could say that Jeffries is 6'0" which is what he's listed at on Boxrec and that he has a 76in reach verses Lewis' 84 inch reach. Making Lewis, not just bigger, but significantly bigger. As you said the skills favour Lewis and I have to think that Lewis would be the stronger of the two, or at least they're close. As far as Jeffries making it into a brawl I don't think he'd have much choice, but I see him eating an over hand right not long afterwards, and it's Grant all over again.

    Can you reference me two or three fighters in which Lewis was seriously hurt by a body punch? It seems to me this is just wishful thinking?
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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    Truthfully there are very few, if any fighters, in the history of boxing that I would take over those versions of Lewis on a h2h basis. The only fighter I would even give a shot of being those versions of Lewis would be Foreman.
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

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    Many sources list Jeffries as 6'2 1/2"
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

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    I believe Holyfield, and Tua hurt him with body punches.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

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    References ?? Links ??
     
  12. janitor

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    Do we care either way?

    If he was half an inch shorter, that just makes him bigger!
     
  13. cross_trainer

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    1) Glove size?

    2) Clinching rules?

    3) Rounds?

    4) How good is our PED testing?
     
  14. On The Money

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    Jeffries was big, fast and slick, not quite as good as Jack Johnson but no disgrace there.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    Yes we care because he'a talking about a 2.5" difference not .5. One I would call signifant the other not. 6ft compared to 6'2 abd 1/2 is worth knowing.