Lewis v Klitschko Let`s Be Honest

I don't mean that all Haye fans are idiots, I mean those who cannot get over the fact that the Klitschkos are champions who maybe would have given trouble to any champion of the past, including Lewis.

 

But it DIDNT go one or two more rounds!!!!!!!!

Lewis stopped him in the 6th, maybe if the Rahman and McCall fights had gone a few more rounds, Lewis would have retired undefeated.

Maybe if the Hatton/Pacquiao fight had gone 10 more rounds Hatton would have won!!!

Vitali had to retire as his face was in bits. Any more punishment and he may never have fought again.

He aleady ahd to get 60 stitches from the punishment Lewis gave him.

How many stitches would he have after 8?? 100??? more?

 

Im guessin Vitali was going to get ko'd

 

I just watched the fight again recently, kind of more objectively this time I think. The thing the more extreme klitfags need to realise is that the established champion , like Lewis, who has been long dominant and exposed to the public eye, they are subconsciously held to a higher standard and judged more harshly.
I too had thought "wow look at this big white guy just giving it back to him and hanging in there, Lewis hasnt seen this kinda thing for years!" etc

Vitali started great but definitely the last 2 rounds Lewis was showing his experience and he was beating him to the punch mostly, he was smashing him up.
Klit was going down in the next one or two rounds, even though the cut was one of the worst seen in a while, it saved him getting permanently injured, Lewis showed what an old champion does.

 

why does this always come up? there wasn't a round 7 b/c vitali got tko'd in the 6th what else is there to it?

 

Probably because this was the last fight at heavyweight when 2 good heavyweights actually fought each other and the fight was actually entertaining.

In the 7 years since Lewis/Vitali all we have had is a klitschko against a number of blown up cruisers, amateur champions with padded records and weight watcher rejects. :|

 

If one goes back far enough here on ESB, back when Lewis was as universally hated as DHL.
I was not a Lennox hater. I didn't understand it. I was not a fan of his, but thought he did a pretty good job.
I said so often enough...even though I did have Holy up the first fight....but to most Lenox was safty first...and sooooooo boring.
Later I rewatched that fight and scored it close to a draw, but a Lewis win. I was a fan of Holy's and that made me hope. That was a close fight, but quite the safty first...that everyone down grades Wlad for.

Lennox was hated because he spoke a good English and was a foreigner to some hating Americans.

I can remember the Klitchko's being hated on ESB back when no one could have even seen them, back when they were doing 8 round fights in Germany.
The hate has not changed.
Jingoism and racisism, was then and now.


I wished Lennox not taken a million step aside money vs Tyson. That would have been a good fight....then. Why take a million to step aside, if you think you can beat the man?
That was a heavy knock on the Lewis.

No matter what one says about Tyson, he took his beatings like a man.

How Ever, when Lewis did not rematch a great fight, I lost respect for him.

Some one in another thread, mentioned that nine months before, Lewis was 'prime' for Tyson. Suddenly he's old and washed up tottering around on his last legs.
He was in shape for Johnson, not for Vitilie...who was to be some six months later.

I was a Patterson fan from Moore to Ali 2.
As long as my man, no matter whom shows up in shape and does the best he can, I'll remain a fan of his.
He shows up a fat sac. I am no longer a fan of his. He no longer respects himself or me.

Lewis was not 'quite' fat, but in shape for Donut Johnson. That was his decision.

When Lennox was fighting he had perhaps 10 fans here. Now that he is not fighting...his then 'weak' era is considered strong. Some have learned to appreciate him.
Others only use him as a hate stick to slap Klitchko's with.

The Lewis haters had a field day after Rahman 1.
The come back fight vs a fit Lewis was great. That power jab he used that night was the best Jabbing I can remember him doing. Rahman was...what the hell is that thing.
That was the Lewis everyone always wanted to see, hell on wheels, pedal to the metal.....not the clever use his height and reach, clinch and lean on guys.


All the Lewis haters had to crawl.

I saw a great fight with an out of Shape Lewis, vs Vitialie. I was and am more a Vitilie fan, and I had it 2-2-2, in I don't got to have a must...but with a must the Judges were right.

I expected a good fight, with Lewis having the advantage. I was very pleasently surprized at how well Vittilie was doing.
It turned into a great fight.

I saw a lucky punch open up that eye. It was not a regular power punch but a grazing one, as Vitili pulled back and to the the right.

No, I did not like rubbing a head in a cut.

Hate makes you blinder than 'nut hugging'...both are rose colored glasses of differnt hues.
You do not see the fight...you see only what you want to see, and nothing else.

After promising a rematch...Lewis reneged. I'm a bit old fashioned. I expected more of a champion.
Vitilie ran him out of boxing.

I got screwed out of a great return match.

I understand age reflex quite well, in we had more of it in the days of the deep tallent pool. Moore and even Liston had to lie about their age, because no one wanted to see an Old heavy.

I can remember when Follie finally got a crack at Ali at 35...everyone knew it was just a final nice payday for an old man...like Big Cat Williams was a shadow of his early stuff vs a young Ali. (Of course a year off healing from a racist cop's .357 did him no good.)

Tennis stars retire at 32/33, when they lose that 1/8th a step.

Lewis had the choise, get in shape and do the best he could. Or as he did, refuse to face a man he feared.
A Champion does the best he can. A belt holder retires.

A champion, may advise some boxer who is an aquaintance...a sore winner, runs around half the world giving free advice to any one fighting either Klitchko....you may refuse to admit due to hate that Vitilie ran Lewis out of boxing.
Lewis's behavior at giving everyone advice to beat a Klitchko shows quite well, he knew Vitilie ran him out of boxing.

 

That was $4million, not a million.

 

Why not? Lewis is smart businessman, $4 mill in the bank for Tyson's balls and he gets to fight someone else and beat Tyson later!

I hear what Bobo is saying, wise dude , but I dont agree that Lewis wasnt on the way out and looking for somewhere to retire, after the Tyson fight he was pretty much done I think, he was slowing and off his peak and wasnt in his normal condition vs Vitali, but he still found a way to win against someone in his physical prime, and who he had underestimated.

He was looking to retire anyway as he was slowing up and the record said TKO6 so why would he need a gruelling fight vs a guy he already beat?
It wasnt like the Rahman fight where Lewis was still looking to carve out a legacy, he was done I think before the Klit fight but certainly it hastened his retirement.

 

Getting screwed out of a great return match is Hate?

That's ridiculous.

Some of the greatest fights have been rematches...Ward -Gattie, Berria- Moralas. Robinson-Basiilo. Schmelling-Louis.

Yep, I got screwed out of a great rematch.

Been watching boxing since '53, reading (a bit later after I learned to read,) in the newspapers back when boxing was always in the newspapers. I never remember such a long on going sour grapes performance of being Johnny on the Spot to tell any one with two arms how to beat a 'Klitchko' or any other fighter...riding a one trick pony so hard it flounders.

If this is normal in your books, who's Jones going to give advice to in the Tavar-Green fight?

It is not normal in my books. It shows a mental problem of Lewis, that he must feel he was forced out of boxing when he promiced a rematch, and the public expected that promiced rematch. He did not deliver on his word.
Had he kept his mouth shut about his advice to others fighting a Klitchko, I'd let it pass. He won't let it rest. Why should I?

Sore winner...He won, he ran away from the promiced rematch...so if you have sore losers....Lewis is a sore winner. Then he can't keep his mouth shut...sore winner.

 

Nice post Bo Bo