Lewis v Shavers

Lewis doesn't move as well as Holmes did, but he won't have to. Lewis blasts him coming in.

Lewis KO3 Shavers

 

actually, he did beat ali for the title, they just didn't give it to him. I'd like to go with ernie on this one, but lewis did have a good punch, either gut could be ko d by the other, but I'll go with Shavers, ko by 5

 

Lennox Lewis had 10 different boxing styles.

For Shavers, he would have treated him like David Tua.

Lewis UD 12-0

Shavers will be hitting air.

 

Joebeadg, I'm glad to hear you say that Earnie beat Ali, because I've been saying it for thirty years. He won the title, just got robbed.

But as much as I love Earnie, I don't think he'd have a prayer against Lewis. He might beat Lennox once in ten tries, with a luck shot, but otherwise would have virtually no chance, getting stopped in a couple rounds.

 

Lewis KO's Shavers before Earnie can get smokin

 

See Lewis/Ruddock

 

This wouldn't be competitive.

The only times Lewis lost by stoppage were when he totally underestimated his opponent and came in undertrained. It wasn't because they were the hardest, or most dangerous punchers he faced.

Against Shavers he'd just keep him at arms length for a round or two, get his timing down, and blast Earnie's chrome dome into orbit somewhere in the third, if not earlier.

 

See Lewis-Golota.

 

Lewis wouldnt come in underestimating a guy like Shavers.

Guys like Mcall and Rahman are only mentioned because they kod Lewis, before that, they werent really anybody.

Lewis either blasts Ernie out quickly like he did Ruddock, or avoids him like the plague to a comfortable decision like Tua.

Noway is LL going to stand there and smile at Earnie like he did against Rahman

 

Lewis is 21-1 against ranked opposition. Shavers is what, 1-4? Good old Ernie gets blasted.

 

Lewis may win it in KO fashion but I don't think he blasts Shavers out with the ease that you say. I can't see Shavers waiting around looking for a shot like Ruddock did, and neither does Lewis try to go for the kill early.

Really, it depends on which Lewis you put in against Shavers. The young Lewis who on any given night could KO anyone with that right hand, but his defence wasn't what it had yet to become. Nor was his heart. What about the seasoned Lewis who survived Mercer, had two tough fights with Holyfield, got revenge against McCall, blasted out Golota and Grant, and survived Briggs?

Shavers could hit, had power and Lewis would be mindful of that. I think he'd be more inclined to beat on Earnie for as long as it took while staying out of danger. He's not stopping Earnie like Quarry did.

Besides, you think Lewis could beat the Holmes that Shavers fought?

I wouldn't bet on Quarry or Lyle being easy fights for Lennox either. Certainly more potential to be very hard fought, tough wins. One against a guy that Foreman wanted no part of in his first title reign. The other against a guy that traded mutliple knockdowns against George in a losing battle.

Shavers has a punchers chance against Lewis but I could see this fight going the way of his losses against Lyle and Holmes. Earnie wins a round or two but Lewis mostly dominates the fight and comes off the floor once or twice to stop Earnie around the 8th or 9th.

 

The 2 times Lewis lost was because he underestimated them/undertrained, not because he didn't have the ability to defeat them.

Shavers is only 1.83m, Lewis wouldn't have trouble.

 

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Wrong. He was going for the kill early in (among others) the fights with Ruddock, Golota, Grant, Mason, Botha, Weaver and Akinwande.

Nor sure what makes you question Lewis' heart at any point in his career. But yes, I'd pick any of the versions to put Shavers away with little effort.

Why not? He has more power than Quarry, he's a better boxer than Quarry, he's bigger than Quarry, he's just better offensively in pretty much every way.

Irrelevant, but yes Lewis, could beat Holmes of the Shavers fights. Wouldn't put any money down, though.

The best I can imagine either do is a Mercer-esque fight, although they don't have the durability that Ray had. At worst (and more likely), I see mid-round stoppages or lopside decision wins for Lewis. Sorry but Lyle is very much like a typical opponent Lewis beat.

Quarry? I hate to bring the old size argument, but it takes extraordinary talent for a 6'0 195lbs man to even be competitive with a man like Lewis - think Dempsey of Frazier. Quarry wasn't a very big puncher, not a greatly skilled boxer and not very fast either. I just don't see anything that he can do here except eat leather. Then there's the nail in the coffin that Quarry completely choked against great opposition (Frazier 2x, Ali 2x). I think he won 1 round out of the combined 20 or so rounds against them. He had the heart of a lion, but at the same time lacked self-confidence on the highest level.

I agree he has a puncher's chance. But if there's anything I've learned, then it is that if a guy only has a puncher's chance, he's almost certain to lose. Peter vs Wlad, Foreman vs Ali, Tyson vs Lewis, Morrison vs Lewis, Benn vs Watson, Mayweather vs Corrales, Williams vs Liston, etc etc.

Well, I've heard a story where Shavers punched the bag so hard that it fell to the floor. In the 70's. If that anecdote doesn't make you pick Shavers then I don't know what will.