Lewis Versus Louis- Who You Got?

I like Lewis,in a fight similar to the first Louis - Schmeling.
Lewis by late ko

 

And Lewis dominated Rahman in the rematch in emphatic fashion. The point is, their losses aren’t a representation of how a fight would go between the 2, and the context of both guys losses backs that up.

 

Louis lost fights when his opponents were truly superior (Schmeling, Charles, and Marciano), and the same could not be said for Lewis (McCall and Rahman).

 

Lewis has a good shot at giving Joe problems however, if I had to bet money on it I'm going with the Brown Bomber, since Lewis was knocked flat with one punch more than once.

 

I imagine that Lewis woudl voluntarily go on the back foot as the man with the longer reach.

It would be nearly impossible for him to catch Louis with an uppercut coming in, because he crouched very low and used a shell defense.

Clinching Louis would also be dangerous, because he was such a good infighter.

If you clinch with a very good infighter, they will typically get in a shot to the floating ribs.

 

Lewis wouldn’t just back up for no reason when he didn’t have to, he’d back up shorter guys if they weren’t strong enough to back him up. Holyfield, while lighter, was immensely strong for his weight.

It wouldn’t be dangerous for Lewis to clinch Louis, because while Louis is great on the inside, he needs to have arms free to get work off, and Lewis isn’t gonna clinch him half assed, he’s gonna make sure he has him secure.

Also, if Louis went at Lewis, Lewis can definitely time the uppercut by following where Louis is crouching, Lewis had a very accurate uppercut and could follow where opponents were dipping.

Louis never really got caught by the uppercut because, firstly, he never really fought much taller guys where he had to fight small, and when he did, they weren’t great at timing the uppercut, and he didn’t face any properly great taller men in general.

 

I will say that a good version of Louis would be a very live dog against a flat version of Lewis. Lewis turned in some performances that were very uninspiring. I reckon Louis might turn 'Levi Billups' Lewis inside out.

That said: best for best, Louis is SOL.

They both have a jab centric game except for Lewis has a mega reach advantage and has been schooled by Steward to exploit the little guys, which Louis is here. They both have average chins, except for Lewis' chin was average against a field of huge hitters and Louis was measuring up to Baer and Galento at best. Hell, Lewis even has lighter footwork than Louis, who as the smaller man ought to be much more nimble but is not.

 

It wouldn't be for no reason, it would be to make Louis do more work to get into range.

If you try to back him up, you are just making his job easier for him.

I don't think you understand what I am saying.

Yes you can clinch a good infighter, but you have to get close enough to do it, and you have to break the clinch at some point.

This means an inevitable shot to the trailing ribs.

If you watch Henry Armstrong for example, everybody who tries to clinch him quickly gives it up as a bad job, and tries to keep him at range.

Watch some footage of Louis closing the distance on an opponent in the crouch.

He comes in incredibly low, and there is not much to hit anyway.

Being tall would only make the situation more difficult.

 

When Lewis chooses to get Louis moving backwards, the work Louis tries getting off would be falling short anyway, and also it would mean that Lewis would have the the space of the ring if he has to take a step back, he wouldn’t be forced to the ropes where he may not have space to avoid, these are the reasons Lewis would take the front foot approach at range.

It wouldn’t make it easier for Louis to land, because Louis, to land, needs to get Lewis into a position where Lewis has no space to avoid punches, like a corner, because as long as Lewis has space to step back, Louis would fall short, because Lewis isn’t gonna be over committing and leaving himself to be countered, because he knew how to use his advantages.

Lewis would be able to clinch Louis, yes Louis may try to time punches as he went to clinch, but Lewis would only go into clinch either at an angle while taking his head off the centre line, or feinting a punch before clinching or something like that, and Louis wouldn’t be able to time it.

Timing someone’s clinch with punches isn’t as easy as it looks, why couldn’t Povetkin, a great inside fighter, time Klitschko’s clinch? Let along be able to break the clinch to get work off? It’s because Klitschko has a great strength advantage.

As they break, Lewis is obviously gonna stay alert, and he’s also gonna wait until the referee says break, even if Louis does throw one to the body, the fact Lewis has his hands on Louis and pushing him would mean that much of the power is take from Louis’ punch.