Lewis vs Bowe: Who would have won in the pros?

I don't think Lewis took it, rather I think the ref gave it to Lewis. I referenced their Olympic fight because people have gotten carried away and think that fight was a one sided affair with Lewis doing serious damage to Bowe when the reality is that it was a competitive affair that ended rather controversially.

 

I just watched it.

Bowe did win the first round IMO. He was fighting well. Landed some good inside uppercuts might`ve even wobbled Lewis a little bit. Bowe also outjabbed Lewis in that first round.

Looked like Bowe allowed the referee to take away his momentum. He looked distracted and Lennox landed a huge right at the end of round 1. Then LL jumped on Bowe at the start of round 2. Big right clean right hands from Lewis.

It was somewhat unclear what the referee was doing but the fact that Bowe allowed that to throw him off some much is not a testament to his focus and mental toughness. It was just a red flag that proved to be accurate in the long run.

 

Perhaps but Lewis was clearly winning the second round, but it wasn't as cleanly won as I thought it was the last time I watched it. Lewis was certainly the faster fighter once he got out of the first round.

 

Styles make fight. Wlad had a gold medal as superheavy correct?
and got KOed by a sleeper in Sanders. Lewis achieved more, and
had greater longevity. However this is a head to head matchup.
Doesn't matter which team has the better regular season record when
they play in the playoffs or finals. Both on their best night. Lewis never
came off the canvass to win, Bowe did. And yes Lewis won the olympic bout this is the pros.

 

Have you ever seen that fight? The fight was pretty even, mybe even in Bowes favor prior to the stoppage. The stoppage? I don't even think it should have been stopped. Bowe wasn't really hurt... things are much different in the pros.

Anyway, had they fought in '93 like they should have... I think Bowe would have stopped Lewis. Had they fought a rematch with Manny Steward in Lewis' corner... I'd take Lewis by decision (plus Bowe would have come in thinking it would be easy).

Had their been a rubber match around '95 or '96? it's pick 'em but I'd lean toward Lewis.

 

I think the fight was pretty even until Lewis connected at the start of the second round...so, the fight was pretty even for one round...one round.

Bowe wasn't really hurt? In the post fight interview Bowe admitted "I was shaken up pretty much".

An earlier poster stated the finish was controversial, but Bowe did not protest the stoppage - his corner did not protest the stoppage. After the second eight count Bowe did not turn to the ref to face Lewis, he did not show a keenness to continue.

Absolutely no controversy as far as I'm concerned.

Some posters "doth protest too much" on Bowe's behalf I reckon.

A lot of posters express a lot of confidence on Bowe's behalf around the 1993 period - I don't think Bowe and/or his management shared this belief. Think about it, Bowe was the UNDISPUTED champion, he held all the belts, so he was in a strong position to get the Lewis fight if he wanted it...he had all the belts, Lewis wanted the belts, so in order to get the belts Lewis would have had to fight Bowe to get them. At that time, for the fight to happen, all Bowe had to do was to keep all the belts & Lewis would have had to come to him. It's pretty simple really.

Relinquishing the WBC belt gave Bowe the "out" he was privately looking for I believe.

As I said on page 1 of this thread, I don't think Bowe wanted a second helping of Lewis.

 

This is the problem I have with your statement. Rather the punishing Lewis for not getting off the canvas to win, why not give him props for only being on the canvas twice? Given the numerous punchers he faced that's a far more balanced way to look at it.


And in both those fights he was hit very cleaning and against McCall he never saw the punch coming, and as you well know, it's the punch you don't see that causes the damage.

No way do I think Bowe beats Lewis at anytime in their careers. Fighting is as much psychological as anything else and if Bowe was truly a great fighter, he would have stepped into the ring to proof that the Olympic win was a fluke, the fact he never, even when a contract was in place for the winner of the Holyfield-Bowe fight to fight the winner of the Ruddock-Lewis fight tells me all I need to know. Especially after Lewis destroyed Ruddock.

 

There has been back and forth statements putting blame on both
Bowe and Lewis for the fight not being made. Im a huge Lewis fan,
but he can be knocked out cold with one punch, Bowe cannot. I don't
see a pyschological advantage, Bowe had won the lineal title and was the man with better skills and a fanbase, all the confidence in the world.
Lewis never had great balance, and I believe Bowe had so much
pep and snap that Lewis would eventually be off balance and get tagged
with a flush right hand.

 

Well judging by their careers, which is pretty much all we have to go by, I disagree. Outside of Holyfield, Bowe didn't really fight anyone of note and only beat Golota, whom Lewis destroyed, due to the Pole repeatedly fouling. What fights are you basing your opinion on?

And I was around at the time this fight was suppose to take place and no way on earth can the blame for that fight not taking place be assigned equally. Fact is Bowe ducked Lewis and I've never before or since accused on fighter of ducking another. But when a fighter reneges on a signed agreement, it's hard to come to any other conclusions.

As far as Lewis being knocked out with one punch it happened twice, now if on average he's hit was 100 punches a fight, and he had 44 fights that's about 4400 punches that landed of which two cause major damage, which is a fraction of a percentage.

So it's fairly safe to assume that Bowe KO'ing Lewis is unlikely. And the fact Bowe was never KO'd could easily be a reflection of his **** poor comp rather than his chin. Good knows it wasn't because of his great defensive skills.

One thing to note, when Lewis was younger he was a much faster and more aggressive fighter than he was later in his career, but except for the McCall fight, it served him well up until that point. Bowe might be able to land something, but Lewis would likely come out of the gate looking to end it within the first two rounds, similar to what he did to Ruddock and Golota. He wasn't as refined as he would be later in his career but he was arguably a more dangerous fighter.

 

I don't see Lewis even coming close to beating Bowe the way you envision. It would be foolish to try and take Bowe out early. Bowe was better than a washed up Tucker, Bruno, and, um, Phil Jackson. Up until this point, not only did Bowe look better but his competition was far better.

If I remember correctly, Lewis priced himself out of the Bowe fight. Newman offered Lewis the same amount that Bowe received from Holyfield and LL declined. Bowe was champion. Lewis was challenger. If Lewis was so confident why didn't he take the fight?

Out of all the missed mega matches over the years this one seems to hurt the most.

 

I do give Bowe a shot here but the question I have is how does he cope with Lewis right hand?

Maybe use a double jab?

 

Bowe would **** up that china chinned miscreant

Lewis had the most forgettable reign at heavyweight, right behind Holyfield

 

This thread is pure comedy.........Lemmie coming out fast, lol, against Bowe , not in your dreams.

He did not come out fast against Oldiefield, the Buffet raider, Mr Freeze Brunski, Cokefreak Tucker, trailhorse Mercer or Lard Butler...........

When Lemmie sees a threat he plays it safe beyond safe, fact.

The problem is that Bowe fought three minutes a round and never gassed or took his foot off the pedal vs Lemmie needed to control the tempo aka impose his will. Thats the reason Mercer made it close and he was huffing and puffing against VK, two average fighters he could not slow down to his pace.

Bowe would force a fight similar to the sloppy Lewis/VK affair and Bowe would have murdered Lemmie up close, VK has no inside game or short hooks and that was the main reason he could not get Lewis out of there despite having him in trouble several times.

I take Eddie Futch any day of the week against Steward and prime for prime Lewis eventually will get bit by his achilles heel, like some many other tall Kronk fighters, his chin.

 

BTW, it is well documented that Golata had a panic attack right before the fight and his handlers made him take anti anxiety meds............he should have never been allowed to fight. The Lewis camp got word of it that he is facing a guy that does not want to fight and that is the reason he jumped on him........

Little is known that for his comeback match after being put to sleep by McCracken against Butler circumstances where similar........yes Butler had racked up some decent wins under the Goosen Brothers but went off the reservation rather quick, he had a nasty crack habit but King got a hold of him waving cash.........Butler was MIA, no joke, 30 -45 min before the Lewis fight (it was close to being cancelled) because he went on a bender but was found by accident in a motel, so the "fight" could continue..........he should not have been in the ring either and Lemmie still played it safe until mid fight because this time King kept Butlers condition airtight pre fight.

Unless they are complete bums , totally washed up or featherfisted Lemmie aint jumping on nobody .

 

F*ck me, there are some seriously rose tinted Bowe fans/Lennox haters on this board (I obviously don't include you in their number ETM & Sangria).

Too many ridiculous points to be bothered to address them individually.

Some people don't want the truth to get in the way of their own personal biases and agendas.