Lewis vs Tyson primes

Here's a question for anyone who thinks Lewis had a prayer against Prime Tyson:


Do you think Mike Tyson can hit harder than the man delivering the blow in the following video clip? -

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Unless you believe Hasim Rahman - who couldn't even take out Oleg Maskaev - hits harder than Prime Tyson, that clip gives you a pretty good idea of what would have happened to Lewis if he had faced Prime Tyson.

The only guys who could stay in the ring with Prime Mike were made of FAR sturdier stuff than Lewis or his tinfoil chin: Bonecrusher Smith, Tony Tucker, James Tillis and Mitch Green.

The only question would have been which round. And remember, had Lewis actually fought Prime Tyson, it would have been before LL mastered his "

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Let's just say that the Brits would have been a'whistling for the 2-3 rounds it would have lasted before Lewis was blasted out like a PT boat going against a battleship.

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: Tyson by brutal KTFO somewhere between rounds 2-4.

 

lewis ko

 

Prime for prime
Lewis destroys Tyson with ease.

 

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prime tyson was a myth

 

And the source is?

Actually it was Tyson after his loss to Lewis who said he could never beat him. However, unlike you, I don't take this type of comment too seriously.

 

Both extremes are equally stupid. And you haven't actually watched any of Lewis' fights if you buy into how easy it is to crack Lewis' chin. In fact they've summed up his ability to take a punch on a you tube video, you should check it out.

 

Dumb argument.

I think Tua hits harder than the guy in the clip. I think Briggs hits harder than the guy in that clip, and Lewis beat both of them.

Lennox Lewis hits harder than Buster Douglas therefore there is no doubt that Lewis beats Tyson, right? (No, obviously not, it's an idiot's argument.)

The truth that no Tyson fan wants to admit is that Lewis was OBVIOUSLY horribly under-prepared in the Rahman fight, and he showed that very clearly in their rematch. See, Lewis was able to PROVE after his losses that he was actually the better man, and that he either A) was having an off-night or B) didn't take the fight seriously enough.

Lewis beat Tua pretty impressively. He showed he can beat a shorter hard hitting HW.

Tyson never beat anyone even close to close to as good as Lennox Lewis.

 

Best comment on the thread, I agree wholeheartedly. Nice analysis.

 

Tyson during his prime, was pretty close to the best ever in my opinion. Unfortunately he couldnt keep it together to realize his full potential. He could have easily broken Marciano's record, and wiped the division clean of its best fighters, and retired somewhere in the mid 90's. He would have beaten Holyfield, Lewis, and probably had a little tougher time with Bowe if he fought him at his best.
Noone is to blame but Tyson. Anyone who thinks he was the same fighter after he got out of prision is crazy. Its understandable people still thought that Tyson was the same even after leaving Rooney, but that wasnt the case either. Its not just the fighter that makes greatness. Its the trainer, the team, the matchmaker, and the manager. Tyson had the perfect group around him in the beginning to bring him along and test him at the right times in his career and bring out the best in him. He got better and better, more confident, and reached the pinnacle when he faced Mike Spinks, who many thought would give Tyson a real tough fight. He mowed over Spinks, detroyed Larry Holmes, who went on to give guys like Holyfield, Mercer, and Mcall, really tough fights.
He fought for the title, for glory, the money was secondary. He was programmed to be a fighter, who went to the gym and back to the arena.
His handlers always knew if they let him run wild, he would destroy himself, and thats why they kept him tucked away in the Catskills, and had him fighting 3 times a month. As soon as he lost his authority figures and started doing what he wanted, it was as quick a progression down, as it was to the top.
Noone should be surprised how Tyson wound up, if anything they should be suprised hes not dead or in jail by now.
He even admitted he stopped being a figther after the Razor Ruddock fights. It doesnt matter how good you are or how much money they offer, if your heart aint into it, you cant do it anymore. Tyson pretended for the last 10 years of his career.

 

This is idiotic. In the world of sports, what you accomplish is what you accomplish period. Do you Tyson's the only one to overcome problems? What about Louis? What about Dempsey riding the rails? What about Jack Johnson. The list is endless. Once two fighters step into the ring, the excusses go out the window, period.

 

The only fighters I could see hanging with the 1985-1989 version of Tyson are: Ali, a SUPREMELY MOTIVATED Buster Douglas, and possibly a motivated Foreman (the young version). I'll add Jack Johnson because of his amazing defensive ability.

Of those 4 mentioned above, the only guy I could actually see winning a best-of-ten series with Prime Tyson is Ali. Others:

Marciano? - giving up 25+ pounds.

Holmes? - No shot, would have been hunted down and destroyed. His jab would not have saved him.

Liston? - Huge discrepancy in speed. Can't see it.

Louis? - Like Lewis, didn't have the chin to take Tyson's shots

Holyfield? - If you saw the success (a diminished) Tyson had going to Holyfield's body, you know Evander wouldn't have lasted, even as tough as he was

Dempsey? - See Marciano and Louis.

Jack Johnson? - Maybe, maybe. Johnson was so good at defense that he might be able to hang in with Tyson long
enough to frustrate him and land some scoring blows. But you're talking about 80 years of difference in athletic training, technique, etc. Tyson's speed would have been very eye-opening for Johnson, especially that speed coming from a HW. But Jack could probably last the fight and possibly have
a chance to win.

Lewis? - No way. Even the "

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" version of Lewis would have had no chance to last the fight. That version of Lewis took some wicked shots from Holyfield, shots that would have without a doubt dropped him or set him up for the kill against Prime Tyson. Any version of Lewis on any type of supplements he wanted would have been KO'd against Prime Tyson. The "

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" may have prolonged the beating, but there is no way that Lewis would have made the final bell. All of Prime Tyson's opponents felt Mike's power, and only Bonecrusher Smith had the IRON jaw to not be on his bicycle and absorb it without going down (of course, he was re-nicknamed "Bonehugger" after the fight and his incessant clinching of Tyson during the match). Needless to say, Lewis did not have Smith's chin, nor was he an 'on-his-toes' fighter for 12 rounds like the far more athletic Tucker. There is no other sound conclusion to come to than Tyson eventually penetrates the "

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" of Lewis and soon thereafter concusses the frail-chinned one into the child-eating wilderness of Mike's "Bolivion."

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: Tyson by HUGE KTFO somewhere between rounds 8-10, earlier if Lewis feels he must trade with Mike to have a chance to win (which would be his only hope).

 

lewis,ali,louis,holyfield,foreman and holmes would all beat prime tyson

 

I agree with a lot of this, but I wouldn't say for sure Tyson beats Holyfield, Lewis or Bowe, that's pure speculation based on how he did against lesser skilled fighters. All three had the skills, and two had the size to make any fight very difficult for Tyson. Over the years posters, partiularly the younger ones, have mythical believes about his abilities and his accomplishments. Sure in his prime I too thought he wasn't going to get beat, but he never fought anyone as good as these three and certainly one or more of them could possibly have beaten him.

 

Either man can prevail.
But the "ooh, Douglas fought like a real ATG-top5 against Tyson" is absolute bull****, Lewis would beat Tyson just as bad as he did eventually, if it had been that bad night for Tyson against a prime Lewis.

 

Sure and that can be said for most fights between good champions that never happened. Did they have a chance to win, of course. We will never know because they never happened. The only way to evaluate them is how they faced similar competition stylistically. Tyson during his prime had a ton of speed and was a tremendous infighter. He showed the ability to avoid punches and work his way in against taller more mobile fighters. Lewis was never a good infighter, and I dont think Lewis style of grabbing on the inside would have done much good for him against a relentless Tyson. Lewis possessed a good jab, but that would not have been enough to keep Tyson in check. It took more than that, it took someone who could fight inside and more of a range of punches in their arsenal. Someone with a style like Buster Douglas. Bowe had a similar style to Douglas, but better. He was mean, he could fight like hell on the inside, and had an awesome jab. He would have had more chances against Tyson if his chin could stand up.
Holyfield on the other hand had the heart, and stamina, but I dont believe he would have been able to stand up to the punishment a prime Tyson would have dished out. Holyfield was much more of a brawler in his prime, and he showed his vulnerability when he brawled with guys like Bert Cooper, and George Foreman.
Tyson in his prime was a force, he didnt quit or give up, and showed a lot of heart. He would have been able to keep the pressure on Holyfield most likely wearing him down and stopping him mid to late rounds of their fight.
All specualtion, but my opinion. :good