Lewis vs. Vitali II

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    yes either left eye or right eye
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    Geez, you are dumb. For the last time answer the question, Claire.

    Who has the advantage? A man training for a ten round match vs. a nobody or the Champion preparing for a 12 round match vs a much better opponent? Is that too hard to answer for you? Apparently yes.

    Lewis was a top level older fighter. Vitali lacked some top level experience and became better after this fight.

    So it was a slightly post-prime vs. slightly pre prime. Lewis looked very good vs Rhaman in the re-match and he was 36 for that fight. Vitali, not his age made him look bad. Lewis himself said Vitali was hard to hit and with his ego, that means something.

    As for age 37, both Wlad and Vitlai whipped plenty younger at that age and older.
     
  3. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why can't you Klitschko fans be objective?Why is that so difficult?

    Look, I am sure you know Vitali is an athlete who always comes to fight in top shape. It does not matter who the opponent. He is an absolute pro just like Floyd Mayweather.Have you ever seen Vitali out of shape?

    That is not the case for Lewis. For example, look at his fight against Rahman I. In this case, he obviously trained to the level of Kirk Johnson.He was in fighting shape yes but overweight and not in top shape.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    You spell his name VITLAI and you call me dumb?lol The younger, fresher man has the advantage that is palpably obvious .Lewis was always on Vitali's radar and in his sights, contracts were drawn up months earlier for the fight, you numbskull.I wonder your thought processes have never improved since you have been here.Just a case of grey matter stagnation I guess! Oh and Lewis was 10 pounds lighter when he ko'd Rahman and it was a year and a half earlier.

    Tell us again how Lewis was the more marked up after the fight , you dumb twat!
     
  5. Ronnie Raygun

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    In shape lewis ko vitali .
    Look at lewis rematches when hes in shape.
     
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  6. HerolGee

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    it depends on who vitali was due to fight.

    and if kirk was a bigger challenge than vits.



    lewis was retirement age at 38, vitali was prime at 32. why u not see fact?



    at 38 you mean dont u? why u cant get the figures right?

    lets now re-examine what you wrote in light of the truth -

    Wlad K at 38 or older fought - ALEX LEPAI! PULEV! JENNINGS! murders row of mediocrity....and then went on a streak of losses against superior opposition.

    vitali fought - SONOSOWSKI! OLD BRIGGS! SLOWLIS!! CHISORA! CHARR! and a light HW!!

    They wouldnt get near a shot at lewis's title. No wonder the K bros were beating people at 38 - becos their fool fans kept eating their turds they offered.
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    Not being able to answer the easiest question Tony, only underscores what a true coward you are.

    One more time!

    Who has the advantage? A man training for a ten round match vs. a nobody or the Champion preparing for a 12 round match vs a much better opponent? Is that too hard to answer for you? AHAHAHAH.

    And just so you know, Lewis signed with his company Lion productions to face Vitali. Lewis did not want to do it, Vitali threatened to sue, and when Kirk Johnson got hurt, the fight happened.

    As we know Lewis said he'd give the re-match, but we both know why that did not happen.
     
  8. Mendoza

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    So you're saying Lewis wasn't an absolute pro? You might have something with their training for the opponent, in Vitali's case, it was a nobody in a 10 round affair. Had he had time for Lewis, he shows up in much better shape and sharper, wouldn't you agree?

    It was not only the shape or age Lewis was in. As I pointed out he looked brilliant vs Rahman in the rematch at age 36. What made Lewis look bad, down 4-2 on all cards, tired, and rocked was Vitali himself.

    Lewis isn't honest about his retirement. He said he'd give the re-match. During the process, he tried to get Roy Jones and Kirk Johnson in the ring. Facts. Only Vitali axed Johnson, and Roy Jones knew better. The theWBC ordered a rematch and it was the only belt Lewis had ( Because he gave one up rather than fight Chris Byrd ) what happened? HE RAN into retirement.

    What I find impossible is for Anti Vitlai fans or pro-Lewis fans to admit know truths. Yes, Lewis was slightly past his prime, but I'd also argue Vitali was at his best after this fight not before, so he was a bit pre-prime in a pure boxing sense.
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

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    Yes, Lewis was not always an absolute pro in terms of preparation. On rare occasions, he came not fully prepared (e.g Rahman I, Vitali). In the discussed case, he was training to the level of Kirk Johnson.

    No, Vitali would not have come in better prepared for Lewis. He is always in top shape regardless of the opponent, like Floyd.Give me one example where you think Vitali was not fully prepared? Sdunek would not let that happen.

    Why are coming up with Rahman 2? Check the weight, Lewis was 247 pounds. Look at this body structure, it was way better than for Vitali.

    As for the rematch, Lewis just did not have the desire to train hard enough for Vitali. He knew he would have to be in tip top shape to beat Vitali.Yeah, he may have well fought lesser opponents. So what ?
     
  10. HerolGee

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    doesnt matter who was prepared for 10 or 12 rounds....
    cos vitali wasnt able to manage 6 rounds.
     
  11. McGrain

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    thread is ****ing nuts
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Sure TKO 6. I'll raise you a KO 2 and KO 4, from one punch. Deal?
     
  13. Mendoza

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    I think you had it right, Vitali likes to prepare, but how can you do that on 2 weeks notice? If you are saying Lewis was sometimes less than perfect, you can't assume he would be better with the same preparation he had for Rhaman 1.

    If Vitali had 5-6 months notice, are you telling me he would be better prepared? Of course, he would be. Be honest.

    Lewis had Manny Steward in his corner. Far better than Sdunek. On a short notice, who do you think was better equipped to prepare their fighter?
     
  14. Balder

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    Vitali was starting to really put a whooping on Lewis. The cut hampered Vitali as early as the 3rd round, and helped Lewis land more punches than he would have as Vitali was unable to see.

    Without the cut, Vitali woud have hammered Lewis into likely a late round stoppage. In the second fight Lewis would do better and perhaps last the distance. Vitali would have beaten Lewis each time.

    Lewis lied and said he would fight Vitali again, he backed out. He was likely afraid of the embarrassment. Lewis got lucky, he failed to meet the challenge he himself agreed to. I am not sure how anyone could not see it as a mark against his greatness.

    Still top 10, but this fight and his retirement will always tarnish his legacy.
     
  15. HerolGee

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    u can fantasise what you want, I am siomply telling you what actually happens. God knows u need a reality check.