Lewis was going to get KO'd by Vitali..Really

With your own eyes, who's hand was raised in victory by the referee?

 

Not if he chose to retire. Which is what Lennox did.


And we are discussing whether or not Lennox thought he could win a rematch with Vitali, not the legal requirements of such a bout. He did verbally agree on the night of the fight to a rematch, but later, thought better of it.

No. This is simply not the case. The Tyson rematch would have generated nowhere near the revenue of the Klitschko rematch. Tyson was shot to ****. The Klitschko rematch was a much more intriguing event.

It's probably not unprecedented. But that wouldn't matter to the facts as laid out. There's a first time for everything.:yep

Agreed.

But I believe we can infer Lennox's take on the matter from his subsequent action.



I'm a fan of both.

Alltime, I have Lennox 3 or 4.

Vitali is not in my top ten. Or ever likely to be.

 

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So because a referee raises a boxers hand he is the victor? Lewis really did nothing to prove any superiority over Vitali in the fight. Vitali out fought Lewis and then Lewis ran away from the rematch. If you want to call that victorious be my guest.

 

Why would Rahman win the title and then retire? He wanted a payday, so winning and retiring would have been pointless.

As for Tyson, he could probably step in the ring today and create more $$ than either the Klitschko could. Often in life perception is reality and the perception was that going into the Lewis fight Tyson was going to win. It made far, far more $$ than Lewis - Vitali did or even any type of rematch, because the non boxing fan doesn't know who Vitali is and truthfully it was Tyson's name that sold the Lewis - Tyson fight.

I rank both fighters about the same as you do.

 

dealdeal

 

Lewis hates himself to this day and will forever, for not giving a rematch. Even in the bowels of his tiny brain, he knows that he was on his way out in that first fight and would have been beaten up in the rematch. His only recourse today is to launch insults towards both brothers from his bully pulpit to somehow attempt to relegate his dishonorable actions.

Even his own mother and trainer(despite what he says today) wanted Lewis to retire because they knew what his fate would have been in the rematch.

 

Any reasonable and open minded fan will tell you it was a close fight. Most will say they had Vitaly ahead at the time of stoppage. What you seem to overlook though is the fact that Vitaly had his opportunities and couldn't close the deal, while Lewis sealed the deal with the punches he landed. It was a close fight and I wouldn't be honest if I said one showed superiority over the other. But by the rules of boxing there was a clear winner.

Vitaly was leading in the Byrd fight and he quit...should we just declare him the winner and pretend he didn't raise the white flag?

And Lewis didn't run away from a rematch, he walked away from boxing knowing it was the right time. Vitaly himself applauded that decision and had nothing but praise for Lennox. All champions who know when its time to call it a career should be applauded, especially when they go out on top and don't come back. When its time for Vitaly to go Im sure you will have nothing but good things about his decision.

 

Right, so we've established that Lederman and all three of the official judges are incompetent and biased.

So what does it matter who was leading at the end of the stoppage?

 

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stop.

 

Shite post.


He was closing in on 38 years of age and was at the end of a distinguished career. He had just pulled off a win over his likely successor. He had beaten every man he'd ever faced. He had a good list of scalps on an outstanding resume and had made what he considered to be enough money.

Why risk going out on a losing note.

It's true he seems somewhat obsessed with Vitali to this day, but then, Vitali obsesses a fair bit about him.

He made the right decision.

 

Vitali is a class act thats part of why I like him, but sometimes that don't pay off. I think Vitali should have trash talked Lewis more it might have forced Lewis's hand to rematch him.

 

It took me forever to scroll to the bottom of page 9. Hopefully I do you all a favor and this appears at the top of page 10!

 

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I'd be comfortable betting my life savings on a motivated, in shape and focused Lewis, even an old 38 year old version, because I know for sure a rematch would never have gone to the cards, and Lewis is a much better in fighter, and was walking Vitali down at the end of the first fight.